AYASE:JIMMY KUDO IS SO HOT! HE'S MINE PPL! MINE! *SIGH* THOSE EYES, THAT HAIR, HIS INTELLEGES AND HIS JUST PURE HOTNESS! WHAT DOES EVERYBODY ELSE THINK ABOUT HIM?
....BTW HE'S MINE!2/10/2006 #1 Report
ayase: he is so wicked awesome (sry it just no1s coming in so i'm trying 2 start something up!)2/11/2006 #2 Report
Like most main characters, I think he's a bit of an idiot. But you know, compared to other main characters in animes, he accually admits to himself that he's in love.
Note: no offence, could you use proper spelling?2/13/2006 #3 Report
ayase: sorry i use a lot of chat language i type faster when i use it so if you read something i wrote in and don't understand it just message me and i'll translate it. AND JIMMY KUDO IS NOT STUPID!!!!! and techenicaly he isn't the main character. conan's the main character!2/13/2006 #4 Report
Uh, *technically* Shinichi and Conan exactly the same person you know O_o
Why don't you type slower if typing quickly causes you to make mistakes?
And yeah, he is pretty stupid occasionally - following the men in black for a start. To put it simply, he's reckless, which could be thought of as a form of stupidity. The whole 'got to keep it secret from Ran' is another daft thing too - if the Black Organisation found about about him, they'd kill her whether she knew or not. He's digging himself into a deeper and deeper hole every time Ran confronts him and he tricks her.
But he's only 16 or 17 - no matter how much of a genius he is, he's still just a teenager and is bound to make some mistakes based on inexperience alone.2/15/2006 #5 Report
AYASE:SORRY I CAN BE SORTA DITZY AT TIMES SO THE LAST REPLY I MADE DIDN'T TURN OUT THE WAY IT WAS IN MY HEAD. EVEN THOUGH I'M A BIG FAN OF THE SERIS (IT'S WHAT GO ME REALLY TURNED ON TO ANIME) I CAN SOMETIMES FORGET CONAN AND JIMMY ARE THE SAME PERSON. -_-2/15/2006 #6 Report
Meh, he's alright and all, but there are times when he really is stupid.7/12/2006 #7 Report
I don't think the most people transformed into kids can keep a clear mind.
And the thing about Ran not knowing, may be. That if she knew she would probably tell somebody.9/24/2006 #8 Report
Uh, this is Ran we're talking about, not Sonoko. Just because she's friends with someone who's a bit of a motormouth, doesn't mean Ran couldn't keep a secret herself, especially one so important as Shinichi's. Give the girl a bit of credit for intelligence, will you? The thought that Ran might blab to someone has never been a reason why Shinichi has been keeping the truth from her.
And the whole point of the series is that Shinichi's mind is totally clear despite his current physical age. 'Body of a child, mind of an adult' ring any bells? His occasional stupidities are not caused by him being drugged with Apoptoxin and now bring under 4 feet tall9/24/2006 #9 Report
I guess you're right, though i must disagree with the Ran thing. though as you said i should give her credit of intelligence, there would be more problems than that, first her father though he ain't that bright he might notice the awkardness there would be between ran and conan, chances of her father blabing would be 90% or something ( he drinks a lot )
Second: think of it, would they just kill an innocent that didn't know anything and bring there faces in the spotlight if they took the chance and they got unlucky. And it might turn out to be hard not to tell or give hints accidentaly, and she might attack one of the men in black out of anger and that might get her shot or blow shinichis cover.9/24/2006 #10 Report
Kogoro just brushes off Conan's awkwardness around Ran - I doubt he'd notice if Ran got a bit strange too. He manages to ignore solving mysteries in his sleep for one thing. And you specifically said *Ran* would blab, which is highly unlikely. Shinichi himself is just as prone to almost giving himself away, as can be seen by the number of times Ran has been onto him. Ran knowing would take a lot of the stress off Shinichi anyway, since Ran is usually the one he has to make the most effort to fool - with Ran in on the secret, it could take a lot of the pressure and angst off him and make the cherade easier to keep up.
And second: I *did* think about it. They wouldn't know Ran was 'innocent' or not. Guilt by association. This is an organisation that takes hostages to make people work for them, and has no qualms about killing them. I doubt they'd think much of killing Ran and her father as well as Shinichi - with the number of people Kogoro could have annoyed by solving murders and mysteries, no-one would think some secret criminal organisation was to blame.
I don't know why you're so sure Ran would do something to reveal Shinichi's secret by being stupid. Has she ever shown a tendancy to be rash like Shinichi has?9/25/2006 #11 Report
It isn't just Kogoro that would be a problem her friends as well though they and Kogoro plus her moher would notice, her mother might persuade Ran to tell, and if Sonoko somehow unlikely discover that Conan is Shinichi then she ought to tell somebody.
and as you said youreself if Kogoro got killed by a former enemy, they might not suspect a lot but they would investigate, especially if Ran and Conan got killed to. And i doubt you've forgot why they poisoned Shinichi in the first place.9/25/2006 #12 Report
Ran's friends, of which we only really see Sonoko who is in the Kogoro mold of observation and self-delusion, are no more likely to notice. How would you think Ran would act, walking around blushing her head off or fuming at Conan? Acting embarrassed when she holds Conan's hand as they walk somewhere? Or even better, slipping up and calling him Shinichi? I said before, you give the girl no credit for intelligence.
Eri is a slightly different matter, but we can guess that Ran meeting her mother and Conan coming is not a regular occurance - any awkwardness could easily have been smoothed out by the time Eri saw Ran and Conan together. Remember, Eri, Kogoro and Sonoko may have had brief moments of suspicion about Conan, but it's Ran who has been onto him time and time again. The others have no reason to think that Conan is really Shinichi and just think he's a weird little kid.
Sheesh, you'd think Ran was some kind of ditzy air-head. When push came to shove I'm sure she could keep up a very good front of normalcy for Shinichi's sake and for that of her family and friends. Shinichi manages, and that's with solving crimes from the shadows as well as trying to act like something he's not, so why not Ran? She just needs to pretend that Conan is Conan, not Shinichi going through a forced second childhood.
Shinichi's fear for Ran has always been that if she knew, the Organisation would come after her. But they're pretty likely to do so anyway, so that point is moot. So I still maintain that not telling her is a pretty silly thing to do. Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a little knowledge is a lot of ignorance. And as I said, Shinichi's life would be an awful lot less stressful if he didn't have Ran's suspicious eyes on him every few months. He'd also be causing a lot less distress for Ran in a way - at least then she'd know what was going on, and wouldn't be waiting for him to call, wondering why her friend since infancy is constantly absent and cagey about the reason why. Sure she'd be terribly worried about him still if she knew, but the element of uncertainty and suspicion would be gone.
Gin and Vodka poisoned Shinichi because the area was crawling with policemen. They were confident enough that the Black Organisation wouldn't be discovered and investigated - I mean, yes, a gunshot would attract immediate attention, but a teenager who died for no apparent reason in an empty area like that would also be very suspicious. Perhaps killing Ran and her father would tip off the police that something was a little strange, but that wouldn't stop the Organisation from doing it if they thought Ran and Kogoro knew anything. We've seen how rutheless Gin is, and that's just one member.9/26/2006 #13 Report
A little novel, no offence. I do not doubt hat Eri would notice. And though you say that Ran wouldn't slip it sometimes, I doubt it, cause Agassa have slipped it a couple of times, and thats just when they meet which is not that rarely.
And you might have a point, I should give Ran a little more credit, and you might give Ran a little less credit.9/26/2006 #14 Report
Eri might notice *something* but would she work it out? Probably not. She isn't around them enough to get that much information.
I wouldn't say Ran would never slip. Shinichi does, and it's his secret and life on the line first and foremost. But she wouldn't do something totally stupid or blab or any of the other things you seem to have imagined her doing. She isn't the one with the biggest pretence to keep up, as Shinichi and Ai have to. She doesn't need to change how she acts to keep things normal, just business as usual. Shinichi has the harder job, and though he manages more than admirably, he does occasionally slip up. Is everyone suddenly on to him? No. Ran knowing would mean one fewer person's suspicions to allay and one more person to work on damage control and excuse production for him. Surely the benefits outweight the risks?9/26/2006 #15 Report
Ha Ha Ha.
I understand what you mean that Ran wouldn't tell. It's just you made Ran look like a saint which she isn't neither are Shinichi, all manga slash anime persons need to have some fails, if not the manga slash anime would probably grow boring, or at least not that exiting. That's as you probably already know the reason that Conan "Shinichi" doesen't tell anybody except a few, I can only guess that this is the reason so there can be some awkardness with Ran and Conan slash shinichi.9/27/2006 #16 Report
It makes absolutely no sense what Doc Agasa said. If he tells Rachel, she'll be in danger?
If she knows, she'll stop crying herself to sleep at night and worrying. She won't tell anybody so news won't get out that Jimmy's alive. and what he said about if Ran finds out, the people near him will be in danger...well that just don't make sense. She's be around him even if she didn't know! They live in the same house for crying out loud! I love the series I just wish Gosho Aoyama came up with a reasonable reason that Rach didn't know so that the plot would thicken.1/6/2007 #17 Report
Well, if/when Shinichi tell her the truth, he's going to be in might hot water, so that's one reason I guess ^_^; But not telling her because that might put her in danger is silly at this point - if the Organisation came for Shinichi as Conan, they'd kill her anyway. Besides, one of her guesses as to what was going on, during one of the times she suspected Conan, was pretty accurate apart from the source of the drug that made Shinichi into Conan. It seems like it's mostly Ai telling Shinichi not to tell Ran, and she may have...ulterior motives...¬_¬1/10/2007 #18 Report
is it just me but isn't it a cliche that "tell the thruth and he/she will be in danger"
thinking of movies though.1/11/2007 #19 Report
I have loved caseclosed for a while now it's a shame they stop putting it on cartoon network:(
But they do have the dvd's so I am happy10/21/2008 #20 Report
Well, if/when Shinichi tell her the truth, he's going to be in might hot water, so that's one reason I guess ^_^; But not telling her because that might put her in danger is silly at this point - if the Organisation came for Shinichi as Conan, they'd kill her anyway
And that is exactly the point. In the beginning, "she would be in danger" seemed pretty reasonable- I think everyone agrees on that, that it´s not the case anymore, but telling her now wouldn´t change the situation. However, I think Shinichi refuses to tell Ran because he thinks she will reject him if he does. To me this fear is totally understandable, considering that Ran is probably the reason why he wants to have his life back in the first place, although people like to call him selfish for that (besides, Ran isn´t acting that selfless either...). I don´t blame him for being insecure about that, for me he is still an amazing person with great character development and depth.4/22/2009 #21 Report
The reason that Shinichi can't tell Ran in the start was because he thought that they would only target him if they found out about him. In the begining, also, when he did go after the BO, it was alone. Now Ai and Asaga are always with him, or sometimes he runs into them when he's with Ran and Koguro. In the begining, it was safer for her not to know.
On the other hand, now. There's been many awkward situations (Ran and Conan going to mixed bath together, Ran confessing feelings for Shinichi to Conan), it's more out of fear of her WRATH than protection. So, if Shinichi told Ran... well... let's just say that he could probably go and charge her for child abuse...
It's guily by association now though. I'm sure that the BO would go after anybody that could possibly know anything about them. With Koguro's reputation, I'm sure a serial killer who Koguro arrested, or family of somebody that Koguro arrested would be suspected more than a secret crime organization that's after Conan because they failed at their attempt to kill him and turned him into a child. They might stop there, at Koguro, Ran, and Shinichi... but they might go after Asaga too because of his knowlage and association with Sherry (who'd also be killed.) They'd probably stop at that. They're smart. They'd stage both crimes on seperatly, and leave either no evidence or evidence pointing to somebody else. Asaga and Haibara would probably be staged as a burglery turned murder, and the Mouri household as the same, or somebody's revenge against Mouri. Heiji and Kazuha would probably be safe if they were in Osaka when the BO discovered Conan and didn't come to Tokyo till after the deaths. As for the grade schoolers: I think that they'd be safe too, unless they were anywhere near Conan when he was discovered.
On the other hand: they might just end up watching until they know who knows anything...
Also, while having Ran in on it might be helpful in some ways (her stop crying, another person to cover for him), I'm sure there would be small changes. Ran probably wouldn't treat him the same. She'd try, but things that didn't matter before, like going into the mixed bath together, wouldn't happen.
The awkwardness, getting beaten on, and Ran's attitude towards Conan and potential slip ups on one hand.
On the other hand we have: One less person to hide it from (especially considering that Ran is the only one who suspects he's more than a geinus child ever), Ran helping him in stick situations (Considering he's already got Heiji, Haibara, and Asaga to cover for him when needed), and Ran's comfort knowing Shinichi is near.
So the pros and cons with it are about even I guess... but Shinichi wouldn't tell her anyways because of the reasons I mentioned in the cons, and above that, and possible fear of rejection...7/4/2009 . Edited 7/4/2009 #22 Report
When it comes to "If you tell Ran, she'll be in danger," I think it's for a different reason than what people are assuming. Think about it: Ran is a black belt in karate. She has a strong sense of justice, cares about her friends, and by now should be a little used to dead bodies. She also just wants Shinichi to be safe. With all of this considered (and the fact that she beat the crud out of the Tori-man in one of the recent chapters), she wouldn't accidently spill, she'd try to help. She would start investigating herself, thinking that she'd be helping her best friend/crush, and Conan is afraid that she'd get hurt and he wouldn't be able to stop her or protect her. That's my opinion.7/8/2010 #23 Report
You know in the episodes when they were at Serina's house in the woods & that guy attacked her she froze up & about got herself killed if it weren't for Jimmy/Conan saving her life. So I think of some one came after her then she would do that again don't you think?
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Who all has watched the sub & replaced the Japanese names for the English names?12/6/2011 #25 Report