Are they gonna completely mess up the cast and stuff like they always do? Or is it actually going to be decent this time?12/21/2009 #1 Report
Personally I think that even if they pick the perfect people for each role, if they don't have a good screenplay writer, it's gonna be suckish. And if they don't pick good cast members, the best screenplay EVER won't help their horrible acting. Hmmmm...
I'd go for being a screenplay writer...
But while they might hire teens for acting roles, no way will they pick a teen for a screenplay writer so I guess I'm out of luck there...12/21/2009 #2 Report
They're gonna ruin it like always.......Do they need to hire a screenplay writer? I mean can't they just folow the book?1/1/2010 #3 Report
I know, exactly. I've always wanted someone to do that, just take a book of exactly the right length, and follow the book exactly, lines and everything. Then people would actually go to see it.
I just don't know who I'd wanna be in the movie, because I can't act worth crap, so...1/1/2010 #4 Report
I think they will, I've heard rumors that after the Harry Potter movies are done, they're going to. Because no one will pay attention to it if Harry Potter is still out.
Oh and at first, for cast members, they wanted Cameron Diaz to play Holly Short, one of my favorite characters. No. Just no. I mean, Cameron Diaz is okay, but I seriously can not see her playing Holly. And they ARE getting someone Irish to play Artemis. I'm sorry, but if he's American or something else and just pulls off a crappy accent, I'm not even going to watch the movie previews.
Hmm... maybe that girl who played Luna Lovegood could play Juliet. She's Irish, right?1/2/2010 #6 Report
No, I think she's Irish. I asked some people, and they didn't know, but I searched on google and everywhere I looked said she was Irish. She was pretty good, and Luna Lovegood's a hard character to pull off. I think she should be in there somewhere, Juliet probably, but by the time the Harry Potter series is done, will she still be young enough...?
And lots of people are saying they wanted Tom Felton for Artemis, but then, the whole time, people who came to see it would be all "That's Malfoy! What's he doing here!?" before their minds fully processed that he was Artemis, and he's too old anyway.
I don't think it's possible for them to find anyone who could pull of Artemis, really. He's such a complex character. No one could pull it off, in my opinion.1/5/2010 #8 Report
No...I don't think she will be young enough...hmmm...how about Dakota Fanning?But she's in twilight series so...
TOM FELTON? Seriously? Isn't he like blond? But Artemis has what? purplish balck hair? If he was the one who played Artemis....TT_TT
what would be better? For them to cast people new to showbiz or people who have experiences1/6/2010 #9 Report
I think new people, so people wouldn't look at the actors and think (Like Tom Felton, for example) Oh, look! It's Malfoy!
And if you keep using people with experience, then new people are never used. How can you get experience if you're never used for movies because you're new??!!
And they can always die his hair.
But again, he's 19, sooooo...
But for Juliet... Hmm... For Juliet and Holly, if you look up an actress on google and there's a whole bunch of dirty pictures, don't use her. She wouldn't have the right personality at ALL. For Opal, if she has a bit of a dirty personality, use her. She would fit the character.
The same thing about Juliet and Holly for Foaly, Root, Mulch, Artemis and Butler. Oh, and Angeline and Artemis Fowl II. Have I forgotten anyone? I don't think so. Feel free to tell me if I have.1/21/2010 #10 Report
I thought Juliet and Butler were Irish for the longest time, but when I was rereading the series recently, I heard Juliet and Butler being called 'Eurasians.' what does that mean? does it mean the Butlers are part Asian? (if so, do you think they should try to find someone of the right mix to be authentic, or stick with someone that's one or the other? Or focus on getting an actor with just the right presence that accurately reflects the character's personalities from the book?)
I agree with you about Tom Felton; and also, though I guess they are similar in that they're both 'rich bad boys' who look up to and have been influenced by less than admirable father figures, Malfoy is such a different character from Artemis it would feel strange. (Artemis is very clever and ruthlessly cruel, whereas I think of Malfoy as being more of a bully, spoiled by his parents)
Yes, I really hope whoever they get for Artemis is the right age about. If he's a teenager right from the start, it diminishes the accomplishment of outwitting the fairies. (; and I'm also afraid they'll turn it into a AxH thing... I may be a fan of the pairing, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere, right?10/12/2010 #11 Report
I don't know if they are Irish or not, actually... I know that Butler is Eurasian, but I'm not sure about Juliet.
I think that the personality is much more important than they're looks, because they can always change they're looks for the movie or in editing, but they can't exactly change someone's acting, right? And I know that since they'r acting, it shouldn't matter, but you can tell someone's personality even if they're acting. Or, at least, it's like that for me, anyway.
Tom Felton would be too old, and there's almost no similarities between Artemis and Malfoy. I agree with you, they are both like the "rich bad boys," but they are different, Malfoy being doted on and only slipping by (in the academic sense) by sucking up. Artemis is a child prodigy and is in no way spoiled, as he had to practically care for his mother himself when she lost her mind, and that his father wasn't exactly affectionate with him until the end of the series.
This is what I hated about what they did to the Percy Jackson movies; all of them were about 16 already. What the heck?? That's how old they are when the book series ends! It royally ticked me off. The producers and screenplay writers have to at least get the basics down for it to even be a halfway decent movie: Age, Plot, Personality, Gender, etc. Well, they're not going to mess up Gender (that I know of) but you get what I mean.
And I totally agree with you about the AxH thing... I mean, they're not even really a legit couple, are they? When Holly was an adolescent, she kissed him, and I admit there was some chemistry, but she's about, what 100 years older than him? Even though she looks 20, she's 100 something, isn't she? I haven't read the books in ages, actually, but I'm fairly sure she's in her 100s or 200s. I'm a fan of the pairing too, but I get that it's simply fantasizing, not canon. That's not what the books are based on at all, anyway. I hate it when the industries change the entire focus of a book just to make it sell to teenage girls who just want a fluffy little cheesy romance, not an actually really good movie. And I'm not one to talk, I am a teenage girl, but I wouldn't go to a movie like that if you PAID me. Well, if you paid me I probably would, but it would depend on how much money... but now I'm ranting.10/12/2010 #12 Report
Yeah you're right, I guess they can do a lot of changing around in the editing room nowadays. The problem really is choosing the right actor; although recently, I've become a little torn on what kind of actors they choose to play a particular role - do I want them to choose an actor that acts/looks like how I always imagined the character to be, or do I want them do a different interpretation of them (that is equally legitimate based on the books of course)? I've sometimes seen movies do things with characters better than I had always imagined them to be. But there are so many actors to choose from, it would be nice if they could get someone with the right nationality as well as brilliant actor.
Yeah, I heard the movie makers wanted to do that with Ender's Game too (make all the characters that are supposed to be like, eleven, into teenagers). But the author wouldn't allow it - good for him, although now the movie still hasn't been made...
Hehhh, well, I guess it depends on what you mean by a 'legit couple.' They definitely aren't together and what their relationship is exactly has been left sort of unclear. I think the books say she's in her 80s (withs late 50s~60s being her 'adolescent' years? I think...), but that's still quite a gap between them age-wise. I agree, I don't think romance is the series' main thrust at all (and so I have high hopes that the final book won't turn into some kind of epic interspecies love saga). Still, one of the beautiful things about Artemis Fowl so far is that it hasn't been formulaic really, and the things that happen in each book often have some effect on books that come later. Holly and Artemis' relationship has been central to the plot so far so, whether its romantic or not, I think it will continue to be important. For my part, I think the biggest obstacle in a romantic relationship actually isn't their age difference or even the human/fairy thing; it's the fact that Holly can't fully trust Artemis, as we see in the Time Paradox, and I don't think that issue has yet been fully resolved. (actually, I really do see some hope for AxH fans heh. oh by the way, have you read Atlantis Complex yet?)
lol, well, I'm going to go see the movie no matter what, even if it they make it in CG! I'm so excited, even if it's just to see the way they do the fairy technology/fairy magic/etc. ...That being said, I really hope they don't stick in cheesy romance either. Please, let them make him 12, like he's supposed to be... But I don't think they'll try any weird romance thing. I mean, isn't AF geared more toward boys?10/12/2010 #13 Report
I do think it would be best if they got someone who fits Artemis' character, was the right age, and the right nationality, but that seems kind of unlikely. They should at least find someone who looks the right age, you know? And the nationality thing too, but if he's a brilliant actor who gets the Artemis part down cold, then I don't think they shouldn't hire him just because of his nationality.
What I mean by "legit couple" is that they aren't officially going out and there hasn't even been much 'real' chemistry; she kissed him when she was turned back into an adolescent, but that's it, and she was younger and not herself then, so I don't think it should count. I am a big fan of the pairing, I just don't think there's much evidence to back it up. I mean, their relationship seems to be more in the "really close friends and there's a little bit of interest" category, don't you think? But I agree, much of the book is based around Holly and Artemis' relationship, which I love, because it shows how they think about each other without it being all gushy and love love love all the time. It's good to finally read a book somewhat based on a relationship, but with complex characters with unique personalities and their relationship isn't all based on love. (And I don't think I've read Atlantis Complex, what's that? But I've read the other books Eoin Colfer has published; the one about the girl who dies and has to do good deeds for an old man before she can go to Heaven because she's stuck in limbo ((I forget the name at the moment)) and the one about the boy and the plane and how he's best friends with this princess ((Again, spacing on the name, I'll look it up on Google later but I'm too lazy to do it now :P)
I'm going to see the movie too. At least it seems like there's some hope for it, unlike some movies based on books. I love the book The Tale of Desperaux and what they did to the book was just... incomprehensible. It had nothing to do with the actual plot of the story and every character has a personality completely different to the one in the book... I hate it when people do that. But I have some hope for this one. I really hope they don't stick in "cheesy romance" early on, like it was love at first sight or something, because Holly hated him and he kidnapped her from information. I also hope that they don't make Artemis out as the good guy in the beginning, either, because he's the bad guy in the beginning, and the fairies are technically the good guys... so I hope they don't switch that, because one of the things that got me interested in the series was the fact that it was from the point of view of the bad guy. You don't get too many books like that. Also, about the romance thing, Holly and Artemis really only had evidence of fireworks in the 4th or 5th book, so, again, I really hope they don't stick it in at the beginning and make it a romantic sci-fi movie or something.10/13/2010 #14 Report
Well, I have to admit that at the end of the Time Paradox, I kind of felt the same way. That is, that the Holly/Artemis thing was so, SO awesome, but probably short-lived and that by the next book they'd probably be back to 'their usual selves' (to take Holly's comment in TP a little out of context) and just being good friends. Their personalities are both so non-romantic... but that's just why I love the pairing so much.
...Atlan...tis Comple... you don't know what... *goes into shock* ATLANTIS! THE MOST AWESOME BOOK! Okay, sorry. Ignore me if I start babbling and am incomprehensible, lol; I think it's just obsessive-fangirl syndrome. But yeah, 'Atlantis Complex' is the seventh book in the Artemis Fowl series, it just barely came out this summer. For my part, I really liked it a lot. (:
I actually haven't read anything else of Eoin Colfer's besides AF, because I just barely got into the books this summer and have been preoccupied with rereading the whole series through again (well, listening to books on tape). But I have to admit that *does* sound interesting and Eoin Colfer has such a unique style; it makes me really want to look into his other books now.
Actually, I read on wikipedia that Eoin Colfer stated that the script for the movie was already completed. (I wonder if he played a role in writing it? That would be awesome) And it says that it will combine the plot of the first two books and have a new ending (but with everything else true to the books). That format actually sounds really appealing to me for some reason, even the new ending part of it. (the new ending the movie people added for the second Death Note movie is an example of this working really well, or at least I thought so) Dunno if wikipedia can be trusted or not, but it sounds promising to me if it's true. Yeah, I loved how the protagonists were all fighting against each other in the first book. The way Artemis almost seemed like a villain in a James Bond movie or something, heh. That change in the typical "bad guy versus good guy" formula was one of the things that initially drew me in.10/13/2010 #15 Report
I personally think that a movie will be awful. Major casting errors are imminent. My two WORST fears are that they will cast Freddy Highmore as Artemis (which would absolutely suck) or Keira Knightly as Holly (I actually heard this somewhere - Go smooch a blacksmith, Knightly.) Personally, I would prefer unknowns in all the parts, but I would most certainly accept Skandar Keynes as Artemis (I am hoping they will portray him a little older than twelve if they are only doing one movie). And Peter Jackson must not direct it because he messes up everything he converts from book to script (Elijah Wood is a living breathing testament to that)
Anyway, about Butler being Eurasian - he is half Asian but this is only looks wise. He does talk with an Irish accent having been born in Ireland, just like a Eurasian would talk with an American accent if they lived in the US. And of course Juliet is Eurasian as well because they are brother and sister . . . unless Mrs. Butler was a bit cavalier in her love life ;P3/29/2011 #16 Report
Disney got the contract, they are combining bokks 1 and 2, and abanonig most of the one-linerts, and are making a new ending, so, yeah, its going to STINK!!!! I came up with a list of possible good actors:
Artemis: Logan Lerman, he has the blue eyes, and very dark brown hair, but he could dye it, and he has done lots of different roles (Roy from Hoot, Percy Jackson etc)
Butler: Jason Staham, he doesnt have the look of Butler, but in most of te movies he does, he plays a Butle rrole, and he does it well
Root: Mark Harmon, he would be a great root, for all the NCIS fans out there.
Foaly: Justin Bartha, or Eric Beale
Trouble: the guy from the Count of Monte Christo
Not a lot of people can pull off the roles7/22/2011 #17 Report
I've looked at people's ideas on YouTube, and this is what I've come up with:
Artemis- Not the slightest
Holly- Winona Ryder
Juliet- Maybe Saoise Ronan
Root- Robert de Niro. Guys, there is a pic of him on the internet that seriously is ROOT all over
Trouble- Maybe Hugh Jackman?
Grub- Elijah Wood. If Trouble is Hugh, then Grub is Elijah
Opal- I dunno... Christina Ricci? She can pull off evil well
Any other ideas?4/28/2012 #18 Report
For Holly, I mean Winona with short hair. There's a pic of her with short auburn hair that looks just like Holly. And for de Niro, the pic of him smoking a cigar.4/28/2012 #19 Report
I very much approve of your choices for characters! Every single one of them works (except maybe Hugh Jackman because for some reason I never ever pictured Trubs as good looking). I love you so much for saying that Elijah Wood should be Grubs XD Winona Ryder is pretty awesome, as is Christina Ricci! I wish we could find someone for Artemis though!
btw - Destiel? Really? lol4/28/2012 #20 Report
Hey, I'm obsessed with Supernatural. It's awesome! Anad Dean and Cas... Like my username says: Destiel4Ever! So, yeah. I thought maybe Asa cantrememberhislastname out of Hugo. He also played Morgana's kid in Merlin. About the right age, black hair, really pale blue eyes, and a good actor. He can do evil well, too.4/30/2012 #21 Report
I mean, Asa as Artemis. He is a REALLY good actor, and looks the part. Dunno if he can do an Irish accent, though.4/30/2012 #22 Report
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