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A GinTsuki

Hello all.

There aren't many (or any) active Original Series Forums. I'm not certain if it's because of a lack of Forum Trekkers, or a lack of Forums, so I'm throwing this one out here for experimentation. My intentions are to create a web of fellow Trekkers to converse with and perhaps discuss good Fanfiction over a good Mint Julep. I notice there are a lot of familliar faces out there, and to be able to speak freely through another medium besides reviews might be interesting. I hope you feel the same.

I have added some catergories to thread creation that might be complicated:

Communications is for general chat about favorite episodes and the like. Maybe pairings you enjoy, or dislike with an open mind.

Engineering is for Fanfiction discussion, such as potenial ideas, editor seeking, and for links to Deviant Art or other masterpieces you wish to share.

Science is for indepth discussions that you plan on taking awhile or debates on topics that have no answer. I'm thinking more of a 'need an expert' place and a nice spot for intellectuals to banter Spock and McCoy style while the rest of us just smile and nod.

Navigation is for ideas you have in mind for this Forum. I'm hoping to make this place a home for all of us Trekkies.

I'm looking for like-minded people to share this forum with me. Like Spock, I do not feel the urge to take the Captain's chair, I just wanted a Bridge we can all share.

7/10/2010 . Edited 9/22/2010 #1 Report
A GinTsuki

*tumbleweed rolls by*

So... if there is anyone in these parts, how about an ice-breaker?

Fanfiction seems neutral territory (not in the Romulan sense of course) so... two of the most wonderful fic's I'm currently loving at the moment are: Lost by GothicCheshire (Spirky in a nice way) and Alekhine's Gun: A Sarek and Amanda Story by LadyFangs (her writing is crazy sophisticated and makes me feel like an ESL student). Check them out if they seem up your alley. Both of them have been placed in the Star Trek: 2009 catergory.

Is there anyone who hates the lastest movie? I have to admit that I jumped on the bandwagon AFTER seeing that masterpiece... but damn it was good.

7/12/2010 #2 Report
M Chronomentrophobia

Such an assumption would be most...logical.

While I cannot pass fair judgment on Star Trek: 2009 due to critical lack of solid data, I will admit that the technology used in the field of moviemaking has advanced significantly since Star Trek: The Original Series and most films made with the cast has been produced. The characters are relatively realistic, despite the Spock/Uhura relationship (considered a key flaw by most Spock/Kirk fans, although to trace the causes of the Spock/Uhura relationship to Nero's interference with the Star Trek: 2009 timeline would be a fascinating project, entangled with technicalities, human emotions, and such), and while I would say that the students of MBTI have some work to do in categorizing Reboot!Spock, Kirk, etcetera, the plot would altogether be considered engrossing. Indeed, the box-office figures speak for itself.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5452622/1/Secret_Vulcan_Mating_Rituals is considered an all-time favorite, and I would agree.

7/14/2010 #3 Report
A GinTsuki

I think the Uhura\Spock relationship was thrown in to make Uhura more of a main character. I don't know what it is about this generation... but in every trio one HAS to be a female. I feel like Bones was ousted somewhat in favor for a short skirt to go along with golden boy Kirk and true blue Spock; makes marketing a little easier anyway. I'm worried they're going to go 'girl power' in the future and turn Uhura into something very different from the original - who in my opinion was more cute in nature then kick-ass. It seems a little out of Spock's character to take on a girlfriend as well. He seems like the no distractions type of guy. This just gives him more potential for emotional baggage and might just make him into some troubled teen that the newer Trek generation can relate to. God... it's like Naruto on a spaceship. I don't want to see one of my favorite characters forced into just another angsty cookie-cutter role. I want to see him struggling with humanity... facing problems that aren't possible to relate to. I mean, how many people have to deal with tribbles or seducing Romulans to live?

I hope the next plot is something TOS at heart. I loved ST:2009 but I'm getting a gut feeling it's going to start turning into something generic.

7/15/2010 #4 Report
M Chronomentrophobia

This generation is the one passing a law decreeing that at least 40 percent of the board members in a private company must be female is considered the pinnacle of human rights (Norway, 2003). Should they go 'girl power' in the future, it is conceivable that the Star Trek franchise would lose a large fraction of its current fans, most of which support the Freudian Trio with Mr. Spock as Superego, Captain Kirk as Ego, and McCoy as Id. However, I feel that in this film Spock has been relegated to Id, Uhura, Ego, and Kirk (or Dr. McCoy) Superego to some extent, thereby upsetting the original balance.

(Note the lack of formal title for the Reboot characters; that is how I distinguish them, in case of future uncertainties.)

In this case, I feel that Dr. McCoy is the most admirable character in the plotline despite the scarceness of his appearance because he 'stays true' to the original fandom, probably because he was never paid much attention by the scriptwriters and therefore became a minor figure able to retain the original mold without disrupting the intended storyline too much. While intriguing, the Spock/Kirk friendship takes centerplace far too much and the film only shows a feeble representation of the original ideal: Three Musketeers, not two with relationship problems.

As for the 'cute' factor in the original Lieutenant Uhura, I have yet to identify it. She seems a rather sterile character by comparison in The Original Series, and having her as the 'male magnet' in Star Trek: 2009 seems like retribution in the face of racial and gender discrimination in the late 1900's, if slightly odd. Lieutenant Commander Scott, hum!

7/22/2010 #5 Report
A GinTsuki

That is one strange law. I wonder if 'male magnet' Uhura is just to suck in new fans. Slap a sexy woman on something and it'll sell to anything with a penis (hyperbole of course, but in marketing its a large component). I really want to see more Bones out there, since in your Freudian concept, he's the ID... the coolest more carnal piece of our personalities. There were so many good episodes where you could relate to the good doctor since out of all those zany spacemen he seemed the most human - the most flawed. Now Spock is filling that role. What kind of upside down Trek universe is this!?

I can't assume that this is going to go down hill. I'm sure that when the next movie comes out I'll watch it, like it, but whine about it too. It must be hard for the script guys... they have so much pressure on them due to writing for one of the biggest fan bases.

7/23/2010 #6 Report
M Chronomentrophobia

I would assume the scriptwriters are blessed, for having such an intent fanbase ready to spend money on the movie and critique it as well.

Unfortunately, I cannot claim the original Freudian Trio in Star Trek -- that is courtesy of Wikipedia, TvTropes, and an untold number of devoted followers of Star Trek: The Original Series. However, I did invent the Star Trek: 2009 Trio, and will stand by it, since it does make a certain logical sense: in the beginning of the film, Ambassador Sarek tells a youthful Spock that the Vulcan race feels very deeply (as it does in the Original Series, and therefore the later devotion to logic) and a Vulcan unable to control his or her emotions would be very dangerous indeed. Star Trek: 2009 plays up Spock's insecurities, which is one of the reasons why it is liked so much -- Leonard Nimoy stated as much.

As a side note, what do you plan to do if the forum is not populated?

7/23/2010 #7 Report
A GinTsuki

If it is not populated I suppose I'm just going to have to find a corner and cry.

I'm hoping that if I show a regular presence and make sure I'm around for anyone's random postings I could get some slow development people wise. Perhaps I'll throw up a new thread with something interesting to talk about.

EDIT: By the way, I sent you a moderator invite (or at least I think I did). Maybe two heads will be better then one.

7/27/2010 . Edited 7/27/2010 #8 Report
M Chronomentrophobia

I have not received it, whether it is due to my stupidity or a problem in the site. What is the validation code?

The likelihood of having this forum populated is quite low. Perhaps you could send invitations to other users?

7/28/2010 #9 Report
A GinTsuki

It could be due to my stupidity, since I'm not entirely sure of all the 'stuff' in the Forum managing area. As for population problems, I'd just be happy with a small group of regulars whom I can say Hello to without them thinking I'm crazy or something. Start small after all. It's not like there's to much effort involved with sitting around holding a fishing pole.

I'll hammer out the whole invitation thing tomorrow.

7/28/2010 #10 Report
A GinTsuki

Wow, I think this is the only forum that's been active at any point this year. I suppose Forum's aren't really popular... which strikes me as odd since I always find myself hovering around FF.net wishing I had somewhere to chat.

10/1/2010 #11 Report
M Chronomentrophobia

Some are quite popular, although I suppose it depends on the fandom. May I suggest a branching forum in one of the other Star Trek fandoms? Perhaps it would work.

10/2/2010 #12 Report
A GinTsuki

As in creating other forums in the other fandoms under the same title and stalking them all simultaniously? It would feel like managing an apartment building with rooms that led into different dimensions. I'd be manager of a hotel based on time displacements! Cool beans. I can see certain people liking to hang in their own fandom rather then migrate occasionally to ours though, not that such a thing is bad. A lot of 'my place or yours?' happening.

Also, I've completed the first chapter of my new fic... so I'm wondering if you have the time to look it over? I'm not going to post it until I have a few chapters in my pocket... so you have all the time in the world. Which you'll probably need since I'm no Orwell or Huxley or whomever you like to read.

10/2/2010 #13 Report
M Chronomentrophobia

Correct. The different forums could be under different administrators to decentralize the system in case anyone becomes inactive, and should have more than one moderator. A role-play thread would also increase forum activity, and a writing standard could be enforced to prevent any grammar-illiterate individuals from joining.

How do you plan to send your chapters to me? I would recommend Document Exchange, which is quite useful, but short entries can generally be sent by personal messages. Of course, it should be to your taste.

I recommend Dostoyevsky, by the way. His books are second only to Tolstoy's, and the Signet translation is excellent.

10/3/2010 . Edited 10/3/2010 #14 Report
A GinTsuki

Hmm... Document Exchange? That sounds nifty, and might be a better method of getting the chapters to you. I'm going to send the Prologue to you through PM and then look into alternative methods.

10/3/2010 #15 Report
M Chronomentrophobia

I know a couple of people who might be interested. Are you okay with inductees? Of course, I will have to go through alternative channels to reach them, and there is no guarantee, but activity is worth much.

10/8/2010 #16 Report
A GinTsuki

Go for it! Anything to get the ball rolling.

10/12/2010 #17 Report
A GinTsuki

Is it just me or did a bunch of other forums get wiped out? How was everyone's Christmas (if there is an everyone...)?

12/25/2010 #18 Report
glowprincess

Christmas....was festive and snowy!

This does seem to have thinned out a bit....do the forums or threads drop off if idle??

12/30/2010 #19 Report
A GinTsuki

I don't think that's why the others were dropped, since I know that there were older forums... That and this forum is the only one that has posts in this year. O.o Nice of you to drop by glowprincess! I'm glad you got some snow... I was hoping for a white Christmas, but I guess I'll have to wait for the flakes that usually fall in January-February.

12/31/2010 #20 Report
M Chronomentrophobia

I suppose Star Trek: 2009 is more popular among this generation?

Busy as usual?

1/1/2011 #21 Report
glowprincess

Are moderators allowed to eliminate their forum or take it private?

We've all seen comments from unwelcoming and nasty members....if a forum were receiving several nasty comments, it wouldn't surprise me if the mod just took it down.

1/1/2011 #22 Report
M Chronomentrophobia

Actually, I'm not sure.

1/27/2011 #23 Report
EchoesofMemory

To answer Chronomentrophobia's question:

HELL NO! I'm fourteen and I love TOS!

And I'm glad that I finally got around to looking at the forums. *rolls eyes* I've finally gotten the hint that my friends don't wanna talk Trekkie with me. *sighs*

4/29/2012 #24 Report
demonwithaglasshand

I absolutely hated Star Trek 2009. The story was incomprehensible, music completely unmemorable, and Chris Pine as Kirk? Give me a break. Oh, and they destroyed Vulcan. The only...the ONLY good thing about ST2009 was Zach Quinto as Spock. And even then the Vulcan Elders had to question him about his "handicap." Pure garbage. I had the chance to buy the DVD for $2.00. I didn't. I ran out of bullets for target practice.

12/30/2012 #25 Report
demonwithaglasshand

My brother and I saw the original broadcast in 1966. Our lives have never been the same.

12/30/2012 #26 Report
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