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2/17/2023 c42 Guest
To Nilsia:
I think you know you're doing it right, especially since you already have people giving negative criticism and when that happens, it's because you're playing something correctly.
That not everybody likes it has always been my starting point to know that things are working.

Support Group:
I love how everyone seems to have collapsed with the chapter and taken their time to process before commenting on how much they enjoyed the chapter. This includes me.

I also love how many of us refrained from mentioning the "good girl", but since you brought it up, I know we all lost it right there.

To Sonderful:
"the entire Order knows that Snape and Róisín defiled Regulus Black's childhood bedroom."
I think you've earned the award for best sentence about the chapter.

To Quarantine Blues:
I agree with you, about the pregnancy thing. For the same reason, is that I'm wondering how the potion works. one dose every month? every 2 or 6? I'm curious about the potion as such, not how it affects the plot, as long as she doesn't get pregnant, I can live trusting that it still works a dose every so often.

To Floop:
I'm in for the request too to know the reaction of everyone in the order, if they found out.

About InformationQueen:
Floop's comment, "We're all here for Snape going "Good girl"."
In that one sentence he summed up everything he wanted to say on the subject.

As Quarantine Blues said this story has to be read as a twist, but I think it's more up to the reader, how each one is interpreting the story.

For my part, while I enjoy the smutty chapters. I'm here, because I squirm and have fun with all the things that happen, the conversation between Snape and Tonks is one of the best, as well as the first chapters when they are explaining to Rosin what is happening with her.

Now, as someone who dated an older man who also had some power over me (he was like my boss, long story), I have to say that power dynamics don't magically break down, it takes a long time to have the confidence to talk about certain topics with people who have authority over you. And in my case, it was not my first relationship, moreover, he loved me as much as I loved him.

I can't imagine Rosin breaking patterns of respect overnight. And that's without taking into account that it was a different era, with much more pressure in the treatment of superiors. Even more so, because they are both obligated here in a certain way, she needs him, he was convinced and on more than one occasion it has been noted that Snape does not make the decision to be with her on his own.

In short, it seems to me that Nilsia has portrayed very well the whole situation both in bed and out of it. And I will still be here, ready to read 100 chapters if necessary to see how Rosin and Snape get to know each other and take ownership of their relationship. Because I see "The Stirring" as the story of two people who would never have imagined themselves together, but life brings them together and they are learning to relate to each other, while also having to deal with a war, being searched and life itself.

Final Note:
I don't think I've ever written such a long comment in my life, sorry, but there was so much to say.

I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who doesn't have English as a native language, because I really feel like I screw up sometimes with how I write, but I see that I'm not the only one and that gives me some peace of mind.
2/17/2023 c42 Floop
Quarantine Blues: First of all, I did not know smelt was a type of fish, so I was chuckling away before I Googled it... this is such an educational support group! I'm British but I prefer smelled I think. It's a weird word however you spell it.

"the general positive-consent-but-slight-domination vibe here"... YES. I love this description.

Khaleesins: "closing his eyes as if in pain" Róisín girl you're killing the man and you don't even know it " hahahahahaha SO TRUE

Magdalene: This is the burning question now. What is the Christmas Day surprise? What was he talking to Arthur about? Arghhhh the anticipation.

Tired Reader: Your English is perfect! (I nearly died too)

InformationQueen: Well, it's more my cup of tea than ever! I think the awkward sex and Roisin being uncomfortable/feeling shame are what makes this story authentic. I found the first few times I had sex really awkward and overwhelming and kinda intrusive in a way, and that was with a boyfriend, and not my scary Potions teacher. A lot of other Forced Together stories are enjoyable, but it's all, oh it's weird I have to have sex with this adult hahaha, wait now it's sexy and totally fine - and then sometimes they're a bonafide couple dealing with problems As A Team, and it just reads (to me) like someone really young and inexperienced, or emotionally immature wrote it. Like the relationships in Twilight or 50 Shades which truly baffled me. Also, only a few weeks have passed in the story, so really they've made up a lot of ground. He's teasing her! She was totally naked! She had two orgasms! They chatted! I'm with Guest - the power dynamic does not need to be rushed, and I don't want it to! It is interesting. If she were dating Eoghan, I'm sure it would be a sweet story - but you know, less interesting. We're all here for Snape going "Good girl". And he's come so far, too! He's teasing her, we see how much he hates the thought of her being in pain etc, and how thoughtful he's trying to be - it's really quite selfless in a way what he's doing. Maybe Dumbledore thought he needed a tension relief from spying! "Why not shag a student, Severus, that one is exceptionally pretty?"
2/17/2023 c42 Quarantine Blues
“Like maybe you enjoy writing about uncomfortable sex that hurts and the female character acting like an unassertive little girl and having a kind of anxiety disorder.”

Well. That’s one way to read it.

No, really, it is.

I can see how The Stirring’s smut might read like kink. There are elements here – size kink, virginity kink, the kind of dub-con inherent in any power imbalance / fuck-or-die trope.

Bold of InformationQueen to attribute that intent to the author though. Lol. IMO.

Personally, The Stirring is way too nuanced to read that way to me, though. I’m a married lady approaching middle age now, but I remember what It was like to be young. I remember how one’s introduction to sexuality, no matter how wanted and consensual, can be nothing like a porno or a romance novel. It can be awkward, uncomfortable, and, yes, even painful. How, no matter how horny one is, the actuality of taking off one’s clothes and making the two-backed beast can be embarrassing; laughable; somehow absurd.

THAT’s what The Stirring gets at, to me. A swirl of contradictory emotions – ones that strike as true and real, but placed in a fictional, contrived context so they can be examined at leisure. That’s what realism as a genre is, no? A kind of dollhouse where you get to play with a miniature version of reality so that you can make sense of its bigger counterpart.

I think this last chapter shows enormous progress. And Roisin has never struck me as an “unassertive little girl” with an “anxiety disorder”. Is her deferential attitude (born of a decade of repressive English education and the solid ridiculousness of the situation she finds herself in) sometimes frustrating? Sure. But it’s not just frustrating for the reader – it’s frustrating for the characters, too. It’s frustrating for HER. And that’s what makes her real.

Anyway, this isn’t really a response to InformationQueen, and it’s not really a defense of The Stirring – people are free to read or not read, enjoy or be disappointed.

However, Nilsia, if there’s even the slightest chance this review shakes your confidence, don’t let it. As everyone here (including InformationQueen) has said, you are a talented writer and the enormous effort you’ve put into this piece is obvious.

I, for one, can’t wait to see how things shake out.

-QB
2/17/2023 c42 Guest
that last review was just so frustrating to read lol in the story’s defense, I do think that the plot is moving forward. there are things that don’t need to be rushed either, like their power dynamic. I have faith that it will become equal eventually but I wouldn't rush it lol it is part of the premise of the story, anyway, and what’s so interesting about it.
2/17/2023 c42 InformationQueen
4000 words of smut is not too much,lol. I'd read 8000 smut chapter.
I see no mistakes with your grammar and sentence structure at all. It's clear you've made a tremendous effort with grammar and editing. Your excellent world building, detail, dialogue and slow burn had me hooked and patient. However
I don't think this is my cup of tea anymore. At this point, it's not baby steps when it comes to their sex not being fulfilling. Or Roisin acting extra skittish. Or adding extra scenes that add nothing to the plot. At this point you're just repeating steps over and over and avoiding moving on with the plot. It seems like you're stuck maybe. Like maybe you enjoy writing about uncomfortable sex that hurts and the female character acting like an unassertive little girl and having a kind of anxiety disorder. (and I'm not judging, I respect everyone's preferences) The described penetrative sex does not read enjoyable to me personally. From the very beginning it's been uncomfortable for Roisin. She calls him profesor at the end of this too. At this point it should be clear to him or her that their power dynamic needs to become more equal, for her to at least call him by his first name. It just seems like this is a trauma bond rather than genuine lust. While I am personally frustrated because of unmet expectations, there is nothing wrong with you writing whatever you want to write or whichever way you want to write it. You don't owe anyone to write according to their standards. It's just that I have other preferences, so I'm going to move on, but I genuinely think you're talented.
2/16/2023 c42 Tired Reader
I'm gonna be honest the number of times I've reread this chapter is embarrassing even when I'm not reading it I am thinking about it this fic has been on my mind since YESTERDAY I cannot stop (please send help) Nilsia your writing is truly spectacular I cannot even put it into words how much i love this fic. Now moving on with my fav moments: when he teases her after asking "good?" I absolutely love it when he teases her and he smiled?! ahhhhhh he smiled! calling her exceptionally attractive and the communication I'm so proud they're communicating now (honestly I wasn't gonna say this but when he called her good girl dkhdjkhsdh I nearly died) and I know I know I have nearly put all of the moments in this chapter as my favorite but I can't really pick out a favorite this whole chap was so so good
Now about the muffliato situation if he really didn't cast it the next chapter is going to be veryyyy awkward and I don't know if I want that or not the secondhand embarrassment might actually do something to me.
(P.S I'm sorry if its hard to understand my reviews sometimes English isn't my first language and sometimes I stop making sense when I'm really excited)
2/15/2023 c42 Quarantine Blues
Okay, I just have to ask my fellow Americans - No matter how many times I read the word "Smelt" I swear my thought process is exactly the same:

1. Wait, why are they melting metal?
2. No, that's a kind of fish, isn't it?
3. Ooooh - SMELLED!

Magdalene - Yes, yes, yes! I am still dying to know what Arthur's smile was about! I mean, MAYBE it was just a knowing look to foreshadow Snape and Roisin's sexytime - which would make sense as a literary device but not so much for the characters. I can't imagine Snape would volunteer that information, or that Arthur would be anything other than mildly embarrassed to learn it. I feel there must be *something* else there.

All who mentioned "good girl" - Okay, I wasn't going to say anything, but, yes, that was seriously hot. And Snape calling her *exceptionally* attractive, teasingly offering her own shirt back, the "you're okay" and "You can" and, well, just the general positive-consent-but-slight-domination vibe here? THIS is SexGod! Snape - not because he somehow preternaturally knows her better than she knows herself (well, maybe a little bit) but because he COMMUNICATES.

And, to Roisin's credit, she COMMUNICATES BACK.

I mean, god damn.
2/15/2023 c40 Khaleesins
Now that I'm in my right mind to write something more eloquent here my favourite parts of chapter 42:
1 "He looked a bit angry and so sexy" "His hand ghosted over her throat and her heart jumped at the thought of him grabbing it" I lost it right there

2 "Gripping under her knees he lifted some of the weight of her lower half" my man knowssssss

3 "closing his eyes as if in pain" Róisín girl you're killing the man and you don't even know it

4 "Good girl" I know, you know

Gosh I loved it. Nilsia you're doing wonders here. I love how you manage to empower and embarrass Róisín at the same time. I can't wait to see how everything unfolds.
2/15/2023 c40 Magdalene
I’m still soo curious to know what Snape wanted to talk about with Arthur! Specially because Arthur was smiling at Róisín after T-T does it have anything to do with Snape's xmas plans, like Floop mentioned? Or maybe he was just letting someone know that we would be staying with her later? Or it was probably nothing and I’m just too curious :s help

(Also I logged out to post this because ffnet won’t let me review the same chapter twice *eye roll*) (at least on mobile)
2/15/2023 c42 Floop
OK, I am recovering from that Valentine's Day SMUT SESSION *fans oneself*

First of all, beloved support group:

Guest: Jesus Fuck was my reaction too!

Other Guest (or same guest?): He's definitely masturbating about her - we know about the fantasy in the pensieve but has she put it together yet? Hahaha

Everyone about the possibility of a Muffliato etc as "Snape and Róisín defiled Regulus Black’s childhood bedroom" (thank you Sonderful - is Sirius Black's bedroom not next door? Or is it down the hall in this fic? Either way, after Sirius' comment about not getting the siog off - Snape very much made an effort to get her off. So - could anyone hear?

Nilsia: ARGH what a chapter. And I didn't even think you'd give us something for Valentine's Day - I love it! 4,000 words of the best smut I've ever read.

I love how they're both turned on by each other's lust for one another - because they didn't choose to be sexual partners so of course, it's awkward and don't really know if the other finds them attractive. Snape's obviously cut up that sex with him wasn't good for Roisin - and even hurt her, and she's upset something is wrong - even when it isn't. They both want to be attentive to the other's needs, but aren't going about it the right way (is there a right way here?).

Fave bits:

Anytime he says "good girl".

When he says she's "exceptionally attractive".

When he asks to kiss her neck - I mean that's clearly for him.

"Feral, I meant my cock." They couldn't have talked like that the last time! He wouldn't have said it - but they're way more comfortable now.

When they talked to each other. I love it.

Things I want to know: Snape's xmas plans. What he was doing for hours before they started having sex.

Nilisa: before all I wanted was for them to have sex, now I want people's reactions in the story. I want awkwardness! Ahahahaha.
2/15/2023 c42 Tired Reader
To support group: I just read the chapter and trust me i want to go on a rant about literally everything in this chapter but my brain stopped functioning like jedhjhsdklkjwqhhdkahsksakj omg I can't- I seriously can't
2/14/2023 c42 magdalene8485
To sonderful: “defiled Regulus Black’s childhood bedroom“ - I love you for typing this. I’m cracking up hahah

To support group: yes I’m wondering about the muffliato situation lol I hope he didn’t cast it. Let’s not silence a strong independent young woman!jkjk

To Nilsia: Oh. My. Fucking. God! Nilsia, I don’t think it was simply 4000 words of smut hahahah they’ve been all over each other since chapter 41.. so like, at least 7000 words. And I’m *not* complaining, tho! - to clarify.

When I got home last night all I wanted to do was take a shower, lay in bed and read a perfectly awkward-sexy smut before falling asleep. So the timing was perfect :’) (oh except that I spent at least 2 hours reading and rereading because I just- AHHHH! Couldn’t believe my eyes? But actually, kinda, sorta, already saw it coming. Since chapter 39, I think? When he made her orgasm for the first time and then left with a hard on, I knew that next time they went to bed together things would only get hotter. And it did!)

I simply love their dialogue during it. They’re already physically naked, so it seems like just saying what they mean becomes easier. This chapter was too perfect, I don’t even know what to say, so I’ll just share my fav bits

/ "Good?" he asked. She turned her head away but nodded against the pillows. "Tell me."

"It feels good," she mumbled.

"I didn't catch that." He sounded genuine but when she glanced at him he was smirking. /

I LOVE when he teases her while also wanting to know her honest answer. It shows him being ~just a man — worried yet jovial... A side of him I’m sure not many people know (specially his students lol). Also, / "Thank you." Róisín gave him a confused look. "For telling me," he explained and smiled. A genuine smile.” that’s my favorite part of this chapter I think. 3

Him kissing her neck / calling her *exceptionally* attractive / and... a good girl? (TWICE!). I’m dying here ok. Here lays user magdalene8485.

Oh and - "It depends on different factors, Feral…" he rubbed his hand over his eyes again and Roisin thought she saw a touch of colour in his cheeks’ ... loldidróisínmadehimblushomfg?

Now I’m just waiting for the moment when Snape won’t leave her by herself 2 minutes after ~helping her. That’s too quick. At least bring her a glass of water, dude? LOL

Anyway thank you, Nilsia! You’re kind of ruining every other fanfic for me but I still like you
2/14/2023 c42 6QuarantineBlues
Nilsia – What can I say about 4,000 words of smut other than – thank you! I have never had something so perfectly cater to every kink. And I know you are putting an ENORMOUS amount of work and time into this piece for no reward other than having a bunch of internet strangers devour it immediately and demand more, more, more.

This shows perfect relationship progression, is deliciously in-character, and just awkward enough to be sweet and realistic. It’s better than plenty of published work I’ve read, and you really should be getting paid for it. You’re quite a writer. I mean that.

Sonderful – I hear you about both the inadvisability of (re)reading this while one should be diligently attending to work, and the fact that this chapter really does make a brilliant spiritual successor to The Intruder. And the phrase “defiled Regulus Black’s childhood bedroom” made me snort out loud.

Laura – Ahhh! I’d forgotten about her letter to Ana. Yes, that might come back to bite her in the arse. But, please, no, no, no, let’s not have any unintended pregnancies ever! Or at the very least not until some fluffy happily-ever-after epilogue 50 chapters from now!

To everyone who’s wondering if the entirety of Grimmauld Place heard them…Oh my, yes, that had occurred to me to. No, Guest, I don’t believe he cast a Muffliato, but Lord knows he should have! And, Laura, it would be just like Snape to “let” Sirius listen in out of petty vindictiveness. I guess we’ll see. This is potentially going to be one hell of an awkward morning-after.

Ooh, I can’t wait to see how their *magic* responds to this! Even relatively unsatisfactory sex saw both Snape and Roisin’s ability to cast wandless magic improve past base-line. I can’t imagine what it’ll be like after tonight.

Now comes the wait for Chapter 43…and any FOAFs that come out in the meantime.
2/14/2023 c42 9sonderful
To support group: fyi if you have a virtual work meeting that is kinda boring. DO NOT take our your phone and read this. You *will* be asked to share your thoughts on what was just said bc you’ve been “looking intently at emailed information” the whole meeting… just an fyi.

To Nilsia:
I think of this chapter as the spiritual successor to chapter 25. There’s an uneasy stalemate between the Order (esp. Sirius) and Snape. Especially because it’s Snape’s own ethics that keep him working as Dumbledores man. Aside from the petty childish behavior between Sirius and Snape, there’s also Harry who until recently believed that Snape was assaulting Róisín, the older Weasley’s who know everything and want to gossip, and Lupin who has to mediate between everyone. As hard as it is for Snape and Róisín to actually ‘treat her symptoms’ in the privacy of Slytherins chambers; it must be immensely worse for any expectation of privacy to be met when the entire Order knows that Snape and Róisín defiled Regulus Black’s childhood bedroom.
2/14/2023 c42 Laura S
Now a little calmer...
About the plot:
We have a letter from Rosin where he tells EVERYTHING. It's in her trunk, but I'm afraid that since it has a return address, it might end up in Ana's or someone else's hands.

I also think that somehow Rosin is going to end up in the Department of Mysteries in the confrontation for the prophecy and most probably for "The Agitation"... Something tells me that Nilsia has her plans well organized, she's just not yet giving us the clues as to how.

About the chapter:
I'm still processing... my neurons can only think, that little by little things are getting better between them (at least in bed).

"He glanced at the clock on her desk and added, "Merry Christmas, Feral."
"Oh, Merry Christmas, professor."
- What a Christmas present, I can't complain.

There are two things that have me hesitating:
1. How long does the magic contraceptive they gave Rosin last?
I only remember them giving it to her the first time and from what I understood it's still working... I don't know I'm kind of lost on how much time has passed.

2. No one heard anything?
Rosin has never been so vocal and I have a feeling that Snape would most likely have let Sirius listen in, just to screw up his life... This gives me like a lot of ideas about how awkward the next chapter might be, with everyone knowing and at least a couple having listened... sksnwksksksksksksj
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