for THE HUMANITY OF THE SUPERMAN6/8/2019 c1 Guest
Mankind longs to be good, but at the same time we applaud the swift and brutal defeats of those in the wrong
Gotham City is a representation of everything that could possibly go wrong in a modern urban landscape. The system has broken down to a nightmarish degree. Corruption is rampant at every level of government. Street crime and urban blight are so prevalent that they're just considered part of everyday life. Even the most outwardly decent individual is just one traumatic experience from transforming into a baroque Serial Killer. The conventional forces for Law and order consistently fail to address the problems of the society they were created to serve, which necessitates the appearance of a non-conventional force (ie. a vigilante who makes extensive use of psychological warfare and theatrics, rather than logic and procedure). Modern society's problems have grown too large and too complex for its traditional ethics to address. Something new must be created to deal with these problems.
Which brings us to The Joker. He is the extreme of criminal behavior that law is unable to resolve. A constant throughout the series is that Joker can not be redeemed. His madness cannot be treated or cured. In fact his madness is slightly contagious; trying to analyze him, or in some cases just spending a significant amount of time in his proximity, may drive you mad as well. He can't be contained either; imprison him and he'll just break out again. Only one thing can really be done with him...and no representative of law and order - not even Gotham's extraordinary agent of it - is willing or able to do that. Thou Shalt Not Kill is the one rule that no one will break, even though it will quite handily solve the unsolvable problem of the Joker, and that is presented to us as a good thing. Unfortunately traditional concepts of "good" and "evil" do not apply in a place like Gotham. The city has been abandoned by God, and the only reason God's laws hold any sway at all is because it gives them comfort to the citizens of the city to believe that they do. The Joker's continued existence - and the continued reign of terror he engages in - is the inevitable end product of the moral myopia/moral hypocrisy of Gotham City. Everyone in Gotham - including the vigilante who is technically outside the system - is applying a system of morality to a situation where it is no longer relevant, and in the process contributing to their own self-destruction
I believe the general rule is do or at least try to do more good than harm
The Authority save more than they kill
The world needs men like Luthor not men like Batman check out Extermination from Boom
Wouldn't it have been better if his father had a gun and killed the mugger in self defense
Respectful when Supes is with Mr. Majestic or when he said a prayer for Tommy Monaghan not the condescension with other anti heroes like Manchester Black or Magog
Robin Hood fought against unfair taxes not the honest merchants
forced charity is not charity
Yes a Mega Corp can screw you over for your money just like a government can but it's usually killing the goose that lays the golden egg, there is no glory in ruling over starving beat down idiots but strong healthy people
A flat tax does help everyone so who cares if it helps the wealthy more, stop crying the other boy was faster so that's why he gets a trophy we're all going out for ice cream so shut up
American Dream is not picket fence etc, what people forget is it's the PURSUIT of happiness not do nothing and get a roof, food, etc., it's a chance to save your pennies and then get an education with no one saying you can't rise above your station simply "Independence" surviving in life depend not on your connections to the powerful few, but rather by one's own diligence, hard work, and a bit of luck, the Ankh-Morporkian Dream, that of "making boatloads of cash in a place where your death was not likely to be a matter of public policy"
redistribution of wealth usually does more harm than good
the Front Line they ruthlessly enforce civil liberties in the sixties, they stop France from getting nukes, and destroy Iran's oil reserves to nip terrorism in the bud, they're first degree $$holes who only do these things because they're good for business but they made their world better than ours and when they're taken down the world goes to straight to hell
In Black SummerTom Noir: "You want to change the nature of justice in America and you kill a president? What did you think that made you? Two-fisted Super-Jesus for the American Way? It made you Lee Harvey Oswald, you prick. You know what? Lots of people hated John F. Kennedy. He barely got elected. But Lee Harvey Oswald isn't remembered as an American hero. Just a prick who killed the president. That's you now, John."
A man's motives are second to his accomplishments say you want to make a statement about the third of the planet that is starving to death so you light yourself on fire in front of an embassy, but you don't actually help a single child, but if you go to these places to build a legitimate business and make money and actually develop the country and improve their standard of living you actually DO help
the nominal good guys aren’t willing to get their hands dirty or bloody or they don’t have the power, competence, or ability to act at the moment
Society's failures to provide for the elderly, the infirm, and the young (though we must also teach them to take care of themselves when they grow up) it must also not take away someone's pride and dignity some would rather die than give up their pride one shouldn't force them to live with shame and humiliation
Luthor IS the second smartest person in the universe after Brainiac but his creativity, ingenuity, and inventiveness makes up for the lack in raw brain power remember Red Son he did engineer a golden age that lasted millions of years of no poverty, war, crime, terrorism, science and art advance and so forth
Without property rights there are no human rights
Not everyone gets a trust fund, when you’re hungry you become a thief or killer if you have to
I have a family f* you and your high and mighty B.S. we little people can’t depend on you at all times
You keep poking a tiger eventually it’s going to bite you
Taking the law into your own hands is bad, dangerous, and more than a little crazy again not saying black ops don't have their necessity, they can be used as a force of good
we don't have to like, aid, or support them, normal people shouldn't have to, if you come from a loving family and a happy life you aren't and shouldn't be a tough guy but we don't always have sociopaths with codes sometimes normal people need to man up
There are no human rights without property rights
when you're hungry and you want to feed your starving family you steal bread to survive
Work out the logistics don't give some pie in the sky BS
asking people to lay down their lives for a higher cause believe in is not the same as asking them to just lay down and die it is wrong and stupid to ask someone to give up their self-preservation instincts
thieves have to be clever, quick, and brave, bootlickers only have to lick boots true the snob mentality isn't something they've created and is a major problem we all need to deal with but you shouldn't ask someone to give up their pride and dignity either and them acting like school bullies doesn't help
there are times to stand up for yourself and times to swallow your pride
Sinestro’s planet was lawless and wild And in the end of the Sinestro Corps War, Sinestro admits that what he really wanted was to improve the Green Lantern Corps, making them accept the use of deadly-force when necessary. He achieved his ends either way.
His people are practically BEGGING his daughter (the new Green Lantern of that sector) to become the next dictator
Stand for what you believe until and unless logic and/or experience prove you wrong
Bend the knee you can rise again if you’re dead you kind of have to stay dead unless you’re one of the people who put your underpants on the outside apparently
There are good and bad rich people and there are good and bad poor people and there are good and bad middle class people a civilized man accuses specific individuals of specific crime (felony and fraud)
Batman 1,000,000/3000/Beyond
Barbatos
One of Bruce's ancestors was framed for witchcraft by Vandal Savage in the Middle Ages, another ancestor was a knight of the Round Table who betrayed King Arthur, his spirit inhabit his armor to seek redemption
Damian's Goliath/Zur En Arrh
Azrael
King Arthur and the Knights of Justice
Batman: Book of the Dead, Bruce Wayne's parents were archaeologists who were on the verge of cracking open a major conspiracy involving an Egyptian bat-god who was erased from history. They are murdered before Bruce's eyes due to their discovery, and Bruce becomes Batman when he is inspired by the bat cartouche that the assassin was really after.
Batman: Haunted Gotham Gotham City was taken over by the Dark Lords of Hell centuries ago. Bruce Wayne is raised by his parents to strike against them, and is joined in his quest by a skeleton named Cal and a sorceress named Cat Majik
Captain Thug did get uploaded with Batman's skills
Fletch Spora- Spore/Jade
Overvoid/Ultimator
Cobblepots along with Waynes Kanes and Elliots were Gotham's founding families
Female Furies Artemiz, Sweet Leilani, K'li, Bloody Mary, Alianna
Terror Twins Black Spider Enigma Joker's Daughter
Shiv
Ukur
Slobo Gilotina
Red X, Blackfire, Rorek, Kyd Wykkyd, Johnny Rancid, Jinx,Control Freak- Reality Warping Super Remote Control Antigrav Jetboots/astrojitsu-mystic martial arts-energy ball/quadruple bladed lightsaber/fundamental forces of the universe blaster/power bands
Avengelyne
Zibarro Drax
Aurakles
Queen Clea
Monarch
Mankind longs to be good, but at the same time we applaud the swift and brutal defeats of those in the wrong
Gotham City is a representation of everything that could possibly go wrong in a modern urban landscape. The system has broken down to a nightmarish degree. Corruption is rampant at every level of government. Street crime and urban blight are so prevalent that they're just considered part of everyday life. Even the most outwardly decent individual is just one traumatic experience from transforming into a baroque Serial Killer. The conventional forces for Law and order consistently fail to address the problems of the society they were created to serve, which necessitates the appearance of a non-conventional force (ie. a vigilante who makes extensive use of psychological warfare and theatrics, rather than logic and procedure). Modern society's problems have grown too large and too complex for its traditional ethics to address. Something new must be created to deal with these problems.
Which brings us to The Joker. He is the extreme of criminal behavior that law is unable to resolve. A constant throughout the series is that Joker can not be redeemed. His madness cannot be treated or cured. In fact his madness is slightly contagious; trying to analyze him, or in some cases just spending a significant amount of time in his proximity, may drive you mad as well. He can't be contained either; imprison him and he'll just break out again. Only one thing can really be done with him...and no representative of law and order - not even Gotham's extraordinary agent of it - is willing or able to do that. Thou Shalt Not Kill is the one rule that no one will break, even though it will quite handily solve the unsolvable problem of the Joker, and that is presented to us as a good thing. Unfortunately traditional concepts of "good" and "evil" do not apply in a place like Gotham. The city has been abandoned by God, and the only reason God's laws hold any sway at all is because it gives them comfort to the citizens of the city to believe that they do. The Joker's continued existence - and the continued reign of terror he engages in - is the inevitable end product of the moral myopia/moral hypocrisy of Gotham City. Everyone in Gotham - including the vigilante who is technically outside the system - is applying a system of morality to a situation where it is no longer relevant, and in the process contributing to their own self-destruction
I believe the general rule is do or at least try to do more good than harm
The Authority save more than they kill
The world needs men like Luthor not men like Batman check out Extermination from Boom
Wouldn't it have been better if his father had a gun and killed the mugger in self defense
Respectful when Supes is with Mr. Majestic or when he said a prayer for Tommy Monaghan not the condescension with other anti heroes like Manchester Black or Magog
Robin Hood fought against unfair taxes not the honest merchants
forced charity is not charity
Yes a Mega Corp can screw you over for your money just like a government can but it's usually killing the goose that lays the golden egg, there is no glory in ruling over starving beat down idiots but strong healthy people
A flat tax does help everyone so who cares if it helps the wealthy more, stop crying the other boy was faster so that's why he gets a trophy we're all going out for ice cream so shut up
American Dream is not picket fence etc, what people forget is it's the PURSUIT of happiness not do nothing and get a roof, food, etc., it's a chance to save your pennies and then get an education with no one saying you can't rise above your station simply "Independence" surviving in life depend not on your connections to the powerful few, but rather by one's own diligence, hard work, and a bit of luck, the Ankh-Morporkian Dream, that of "making boatloads of cash in a place where your death was not likely to be a matter of public policy"
redistribution of wealth usually does more harm than good
the Front Line they ruthlessly enforce civil liberties in the sixties, they stop France from getting nukes, and destroy Iran's oil reserves to nip terrorism in the bud, they're first degree $$holes who only do these things because they're good for business but they made their world better than ours and when they're taken down the world goes to straight to hell
In Black SummerTom Noir: "You want to change the nature of justice in America and you kill a president? What did you think that made you? Two-fisted Super-Jesus for the American Way? It made you Lee Harvey Oswald, you prick. You know what? Lots of people hated John F. Kennedy. He barely got elected. But Lee Harvey Oswald isn't remembered as an American hero. Just a prick who killed the president. That's you now, John."
A man's motives are second to his accomplishments say you want to make a statement about the third of the planet that is starving to death so you light yourself on fire in front of an embassy, but you don't actually help a single child, but if you go to these places to build a legitimate business and make money and actually develop the country and improve their standard of living you actually DO help
the nominal good guys aren’t willing to get their hands dirty or bloody or they don’t have the power, competence, or ability to act at the moment
Society's failures to provide for the elderly, the infirm, and the young (though we must also teach them to take care of themselves when they grow up) it must also not take away someone's pride and dignity some would rather die than give up their pride one shouldn't force them to live with shame and humiliation
Luthor IS the second smartest person in the universe after Brainiac but his creativity, ingenuity, and inventiveness makes up for the lack in raw brain power remember Red Son he did engineer a golden age that lasted millions of years of no poverty, war, crime, terrorism, science and art advance and so forth
Without property rights there are no human rights
Not everyone gets a trust fund, when you’re hungry you become a thief or killer if you have to
I have a family f* you and your high and mighty B.S. we little people can’t depend on you at all times
You keep poking a tiger eventually it’s going to bite you
Taking the law into your own hands is bad, dangerous, and more than a little crazy again not saying black ops don't have their necessity, they can be used as a force of good
we don't have to like, aid, or support them, normal people shouldn't have to, if you come from a loving family and a happy life you aren't and shouldn't be a tough guy but we don't always have sociopaths with codes sometimes normal people need to man up
There are no human rights without property rights
when you're hungry and you want to feed your starving family you steal bread to survive
Work out the logistics don't give some pie in the sky BS
asking people to lay down their lives for a higher cause believe in is not the same as asking them to just lay down and die it is wrong and stupid to ask someone to give up their self-preservation instincts
thieves have to be clever, quick, and brave, bootlickers only have to lick boots true the snob mentality isn't something they've created and is a major problem we all need to deal with but you shouldn't ask someone to give up their pride and dignity either and them acting like school bullies doesn't help
there are times to stand up for yourself and times to swallow your pride
Sinestro’s planet was lawless and wild And in the end of the Sinestro Corps War, Sinestro admits that what he really wanted was to improve the Green Lantern Corps, making them accept the use of deadly-force when necessary. He achieved his ends either way.
His people are practically BEGGING his daughter (the new Green Lantern of that sector) to become the next dictator
Stand for what you believe until and unless logic and/or experience prove you wrong
Bend the knee you can rise again if you’re dead you kind of have to stay dead unless you’re one of the people who put your underpants on the outside apparently
There are good and bad rich people and there are good and bad poor people and there are good and bad middle class people a civilized man accuses specific individuals of specific crime (felony and fraud)
Batman 1,000,000/3000/Beyond
Barbatos
One of Bruce's ancestors was framed for witchcraft by Vandal Savage in the Middle Ages, another ancestor was a knight of the Round Table who betrayed King Arthur, his spirit inhabit his armor to seek redemption
Damian's Goliath/Zur En Arrh
Azrael
King Arthur and the Knights of Justice
Batman: Book of the Dead, Bruce Wayne's parents were archaeologists who were on the verge of cracking open a major conspiracy involving an Egyptian bat-god who was erased from history. They are murdered before Bruce's eyes due to their discovery, and Bruce becomes Batman when he is inspired by the bat cartouche that the assassin was really after.
Batman: Haunted Gotham Gotham City was taken over by the Dark Lords of Hell centuries ago. Bruce Wayne is raised by his parents to strike against them, and is joined in his quest by a skeleton named Cal and a sorceress named Cat Majik
Captain Thug did get uploaded with Batman's skills
Fletch Spora- Spore/Jade
Overvoid/Ultimator
Cobblepots along with Waynes Kanes and Elliots were Gotham's founding families
Female Furies Artemiz, Sweet Leilani, K'li, Bloody Mary, Alianna
Terror Twins Black Spider Enigma Joker's Daughter
Shiv
Ukur
Slobo Gilotina
Red X, Blackfire, Rorek, Kyd Wykkyd, Johnny Rancid, Jinx,Control Freak- Reality Warping Super Remote Control Antigrav Jetboots/astrojitsu-mystic martial arts-energy ball/quadruple bladed lightsaber/fundamental forces of the universe blaster/power bands
Avengelyne
Zibarro Drax
Aurakles
Queen Clea
Monarch
6/8/2019 c1 Guest
if you kill them you are just as bad excuse. Why frak won't writers stop bringing it up already!?
Look. There are perfectly valid logical and compassionate reasons for heroes not to kill. Just off the top of my head:
-because superheroes are technically illegal vigilantes, so it's best not to rock the boat too much by committing actions, such as homicide, that cannot be repaired;
-because villains often have unique abilities that might one day be key to saving the day (ex: Lex Luthor actually saved the world a couple of times);
-because being a superhero is incredibly stressful and at times even soul crushing, so keeping an optimistic attitude about man's inherent ability to be redeemed is good for your mental health;
-because killing a villain might accidentally cause a chain reaction wherein more villains come up to cause more harm (ex: if you kill a villain who has kids and the kids then want revenge);
I'm sure I could think of more good reasons if it were my paid job to write about the topic.
"If you kill the unrepentant mass-murderer who gleefully tried to slaughter hundreds of thousands of innocent people including toddlers for $#!% and giggles and will no doubt attempt to do so again, you are no better than he is" is a deeply, deeply idiotic reason.
Say that it's not acceptable to kill a threat that has already been neutralized. Do not ruin your perfectly good point by phrasing it in a way that makes you (general you) sound like a moron ("if you ever take a life for any reason you are as bad as a terrorist, no exceptions
more accurately what a powerless street vigilante has to go through. It shows more accurately what he would do to stop street level evil.
In a world full of super powered monsters, of globe threatening crises twice a year, you think street level thugs are going to be -nicer-? To be pacified by a broken arm or a two year stretch in prison?
Batman does nothing to stop crime. For all his billions, for all his fighting of colorful maniacs, Gotham is just as bad today as the day he began.
The Punisher does nothing to stop crime. For all his killing, and his killing, and his killing, NYC is just as bad today as when he began.
The task is Sisyphean. It wears you down, body and soul.
With Batman, we get a taste of angst from time to time. A crisis of conscience here and there.
With Punisher, we see a man in hell. His obsession, of almost identical origin as Batman's, drives him ever onward. He is cold, grim, and nearly emotionless. Nearly insensate to emotional, physical, and spiritual pain.
He is superhuman, not due to the gadgets his billions buy him, or his farcical status as a paragon of human physique, intelligence, cunning, and fighting ability all at once, but that he simply able to -tolerate- the joyless, agonizing life he leads. That his mental infirmity demands of him.
Frank Castle is not as interesting a character as Bruce Wayne, but he is far more realistic. That BW is able to engage in normal, hell, subtle and nuanced, social interaction despite his neuropathology beggars belief more than any combined Batplane/submarine/space fighter. Punisher is clearly sick. He clearly suffers. He is clearly disconnected from the world.
Batman romances catburglars who look like supermodels in skin tight PVC costumes.
Batman fans want a guy who is a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist who is also the best hand to hand fighter in the world and can fight superpowered space aliens just as handily as thugs with pistols, but even -there- we find more realism at Marvel because Tony Stark, BW's opposite number in this regard, is consistently portrayed as a -tremendous- jag-off.
BW suffers unspeakable pain, fights an unwinnable fight, but stays emotionally healthy (unless it is part of a story that is quickly forgotten by the next guy).
Batman is (second) best at everything, but remains humble and grounded, nothing is better for Gotham's citizens but he gets to play king of the mountain and all he offers the average man is flowers on their graves and those of their loved ones
When it's just the Joker and the cockroaches and Bats trying to save the cockroaches
He's never wrong and must never be questioned gag
One spoiled trust fund brat got a taste of the real world and wants to play king of the mountain but is anything better for the average Gotham citizen
I'm not saying hitting people with a shame stick solves anything but where are the real solutions to poverty
It's one thing to die a summary execution a bullet through the brain is one thing starving to death in the gutters is something else
if you kill them you are just as bad excuse. Why frak won't writers stop bringing it up already!?
Look. There are perfectly valid logical and compassionate reasons for heroes not to kill. Just off the top of my head:
-because superheroes are technically illegal vigilantes, so it's best not to rock the boat too much by committing actions, such as homicide, that cannot be repaired;
-because villains often have unique abilities that might one day be key to saving the day (ex: Lex Luthor actually saved the world a couple of times);
-because being a superhero is incredibly stressful and at times even soul crushing, so keeping an optimistic attitude about man's inherent ability to be redeemed is good for your mental health;
-because killing a villain might accidentally cause a chain reaction wherein more villains come up to cause more harm (ex: if you kill a villain who has kids and the kids then want revenge);
I'm sure I could think of more good reasons if it were my paid job to write about the topic.
"If you kill the unrepentant mass-murderer who gleefully tried to slaughter hundreds of thousands of innocent people including toddlers for $#!% and giggles and will no doubt attempt to do so again, you are no better than he is" is a deeply, deeply idiotic reason.
Say that it's not acceptable to kill a threat that has already been neutralized. Do not ruin your perfectly good point by phrasing it in a way that makes you (general you) sound like a moron ("if you ever take a life for any reason you are as bad as a terrorist, no exceptions
more accurately what a powerless street vigilante has to go through. It shows more accurately what he would do to stop street level evil.
In a world full of super powered monsters, of globe threatening crises twice a year, you think street level thugs are going to be -nicer-? To be pacified by a broken arm or a two year stretch in prison?
Batman does nothing to stop crime. For all his billions, for all his fighting of colorful maniacs, Gotham is just as bad today as the day he began.
The Punisher does nothing to stop crime. For all his killing, and his killing, and his killing, NYC is just as bad today as when he began.
The task is Sisyphean. It wears you down, body and soul.
With Batman, we get a taste of angst from time to time. A crisis of conscience here and there.
With Punisher, we see a man in hell. His obsession, of almost identical origin as Batman's, drives him ever onward. He is cold, grim, and nearly emotionless. Nearly insensate to emotional, physical, and spiritual pain.
He is superhuman, not due to the gadgets his billions buy him, or his farcical status as a paragon of human physique, intelligence, cunning, and fighting ability all at once, but that he simply able to -tolerate- the joyless, agonizing life he leads. That his mental infirmity demands of him.
Frank Castle is not as interesting a character as Bruce Wayne, but he is far more realistic. That BW is able to engage in normal, hell, subtle and nuanced, social interaction despite his neuropathology beggars belief more than any combined Batplane/submarine/space fighter. Punisher is clearly sick. He clearly suffers. He is clearly disconnected from the world.
Batman romances catburglars who look like supermodels in skin tight PVC costumes.
Batman fans want a guy who is a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist who is also the best hand to hand fighter in the world and can fight superpowered space aliens just as handily as thugs with pistols, but even -there- we find more realism at Marvel because Tony Stark, BW's opposite number in this regard, is consistently portrayed as a -tremendous- jag-off.
BW suffers unspeakable pain, fights an unwinnable fight, but stays emotionally healthy (unless it is part of a story that is quickly forgotten by the next guy).
Batman is (second) best at everything, but remains humble and grounded, nothing is better for Gotham's citizens but he gets to play king of the mountain and all he offers the average man is flowers on their graves and those of their loved ones
When it's just the Joker and the cockroaches and Bats trying to save the cockroaches
He's never wrong and must never be questioned gag
One spoiled trust fund brat got a taste of the real world and wants to play king of the mountain but is anything better for the average Gotham citizen
I'm not saying hitting people with a shame stick solves anything but where are the real solutions to poverty
It's one thing to die a summary execution a bullet through the brain is one thing starving to death in the gutters is something else
6/8/2019 c1 Guest
The biggest flaw in Batman's philosophy is that by him refusing to kill off the criminals, many innocent die at the hands of these villians
Counter Productive much?
The Joker's killed over two thousand people men, women, children, his own henchmen, he once gassed an entire kindergarten class, took out a boy scout troop with poisoned cotton candy, boiled a baby and made the father drink the soup
an irredeemable, mass-murdering abomination who can never be stopped nor reasoned with
Indeed, Batman doesn't even work as a deterrent to crime as his the is no risk in facing him, even if you raped and killed every child in Gotham Batman would take you in alive, protect you from the capital punishment and probably throw you into Arkham so that you could do it to another city within a day given how well Arkham is guarded.
Batman's code is comic-book fine, real life flawed
Gotham City Impostors
As you know we are dedicated to honoring Batman's nobility through our words and deeds. Of course just as batman can afford fancier and more expensive gear and gadgets than us, so too can he afford to take a more honorable approach to crime fighting. his is the righteous path of blunt trauma and painful but nonlethal contusions ours is the more efficacious path of cordite and home brewed explosives.
Why fight crime when you can kill it
And besides if you read the actual comics that this game is based on you would know that gotham descended into total anarchy and batman was no where to be found. The citizens of gotham had no other choice but to gear up and fight back
Infinitia/Imaginatia
Devilslayer
Thaum/aturge/Thaumtech/Mystechnician/Ipsissimus/Iatromantis(psi/psy-entist/enser-super science/zcience sorcery-sorcer/zorcer/xorser(Force)-sourcentist-High/er/est Science) Metamutagenic Mystech Metaphysicist Metaphysicsian, Mad Doks, Wyrd Mek/Tek Boyz(Mekanica-machine)psybermancy/Warmage/Thaummaster/Master/Mistress Myth[Energy-fundamental forces of the universe/matter-solid/liquid/gas/plasma
Hephaestus guns/lasers/invisible jet
Might Beyond The Mirror Nikos Aegeus
Phantazmagoria/Micro Mega Giga Yocto Yotta Exa Atto Neo Nippon/Old Kroy
Questing Queen/Sheeda
Zatan “Zate” Xatan-double trident/two sword size
Xatana, X-666-Kandy Kane
Zenpool 2099
Destro/Mindbender
Kilgore arms commercial/Mandroid
Berserko, Samurai Jack
Beast Man/Mer-Man Evilseed
Triclops
Ring-enhance physically and mentally/tower of muscles/super intelligence (chimera-kaiju(imaginators)/plague/bots/armor/gadgets/)/mystic martial arts
Hit-Monkey/Mojo Jojo
Mark II Sentinel giant robot/X Collapsible suitcase sentinel/XI all terrain/XII nanobot sentinels/XIII tri Sentinel
nanoseeds/ Spore-Spawn/Swamp Thing (Parliaments/red/green/gray/black/metal-machine)/Jade/Black Orchid/Poison Ivy
Flying cars that don't need gas and last forever, computer that never need to be upgraded or plugged in
Generators that last forever infinite supply of energy, Energy/plasma weapons, flying cars, teleportation as well as space travel
benevolent Symbioids, loyal men of iron/DoomBots/Havokoids/Luthor War suits Hulkbusters Destroyer armors, Dread/Dream/Shine Knights ala Angelus Warriors
Neo Marz
Urth-opposite of earth's orbit
Akania/Neo Genesis: East and west of earth's orbit
Urthium, urthite, urthstone
Biomancy (bioroids)-White shadow Glow/Radiance Angelus/Darkness summon anything imaginable copy replicate infinitely mix and match light/dark gray prism (rainbow)/grayshades yinyang zinxang (Taijitu-Wuxing-Bagua)/Tomoe shadeshine/shineshade half angel/half demoness archangel half metal half organic some black some white wings kymira kaiju golem (imaginators)[Celestial Paragon/Archangel/(Saint)/Demon Lord/Arch Devil(Daemon Prince)](Dwarfs, Giants, Beastfolk, ogres trolls, Krork-Maestro/Leader/Doc Green/Doc Samson/Green Scar/Sakaarson/Nul “Breaker of Worlds” as well as Hobgoblin/Demogoblin, Eldar become Azurai Magno organic Amazos/Brother Grimm Warhammer Fantasy Elves, Angel/Fairy/Genie, Gnome, archgremlin/imp-antifairy, replicae (genetic diversity different races and genders) perfect human (captain America/Nick Fury/Cable) clone, enhance (cybernetic brains) completely under thrall Symbioids Justice Titans-Supermartian/Rann/(Skorp Von Warstar)Adam Strage-John Carter/Flash Gordon, Wonderhawk, Aquaorion, Alakazam-Captain Marvel/Shazam/Zatara-Doc Fate(Wyrd)Mandrake, Bat-Lantern, Zauriel, Superdemon, Squad Superman (Earth 14/33/13)
The Monk
Flesh/genetic golems under thrall cybernetic brains
Kryptonian Werewolf/Egyptia Latverion/Angor/Slovekia
Tom Strong
Major Bummer
Dezdemona Hell/Heaven/phyr/gem
Kozmozaz Empyrean Azgardia Archsaint Morpheus 'Deus Rex' Merovingian
Saintgard/Saint/soulphyr/St. Ivory/Halosteel
Trinity Equilibrium Ultraviolet
Captain Comet/Ultraa
Phyrstoneholysteel
Xout Dragozaur
food/fortress shmoo and all/omni fauna/flora/mineral equivalent trillions/infinite planets/universes, multiverses/dimensions- Worldscape/Heroscape
Post Scarcity
Motherbox App-Molecular assembler-omninanoforge/oven/replicator/matter compiler/cornucopia machine/universal constructor
Lust/Sloth/Gluttony
Sentry super soldier serum/Titan Venom/5-U-93-R pill/Exobyte potion, Vrykul bless every follower with it
Whiteshadow Triklops Jack o'lantern-Brainiac/Despero/Leader
Tree Dazzler
X-Mas Jack o lantern rocket ship tree forest Ents Tree Lords Warhammer Magic Tree of Nowhere
nanoseeds/ Spore-Spawn/Swamp Thing/Jade/Poison Ivy
One organic, one cybernetic, one half and half
Sublime/Arkea
Sentinel X Shogo
Latveria is one of the most advanced nations on Earth, but most of the landscape looks quaint and medieval—because Doctor Doom likes the quaint medieval look.
Wakanda, home of the Black Panther, goes even beyond Latveria in some versions. Someone might stumble on what looks like a harmless and primitive—at best Bronze Age—African village on the edge of the country and mistake it for an easy target only to discover the apparently decorative stone statues are shooting plasma bolts, armed flying drones are being launched from a wooden hut, and the spears those loincloth-wearing warriors are tossing? Rocket-boosted self-guided smart missiles with high explosive armour-piercing warheads. Techno organic jungle
Minor villain/heroic ally Arkon and his city Polemachus would count. Arkon is loincloth-wearing, sword-wielding barbarian who rides giant lizards, but carries thunderbolt-shaped energy spears that can open dimensional portals and be hurled for powerful energy bursts. The city he rules, Polemachus, is something out of a Frank Frazetta/Roger Dean album cover with such weirdtech as mind-controlling machines, but they somehow never develop atomic power (Arkon had to kidnap and brainwash Earth scientists to get the secret of developing nukes. The Schizo Tech elements get furthered as Arkon often goes raiding Earth and other dimensions for the opportunity to steal what technology Polemachus doesn't have, and his people have a highly developed use of sorcery and magic besides their own native science
White Lion (M’Balla): King of the African nation of Dakana, gifted with peak human strength, speed, and agility as well as a brilliant technical mind
daka: Crystals found only in the African nation of Dakana, able to channel various forms of energy. Sometimes erroneously known as “Dakana diamonds.” Dakana: African nation ruled by the White Lion and producer of daka crystals (cf. “Diamonds of Dakana” in Atom
Marvel Manga-verse, T’Challa is still King of Wakanda and when calling upon the help of the God Qamatha, he can transform into a Were-Panther. His appearance in the Were-Panther form is of a large humanoid panther in ancient Egyptian clothing. He can also call upon Qamathas's power to change himself into the Falcon. In this form, his appearance is heavily influenced by the ancient Egyptian god Horus. In this reality, his magical abilities are prominent as Dr. Strange notices his magical trail.
T'Calla in his Thrice-blessed Armor, wielding the Ebony Blade. T'Challa possess specialized Thrice-blessed Armor and Light Armor for specific Thrice-blesses armor functions the same way as Iron Man's armor, and is also enhanced with Magic abilities.
Egyptia
Doc Croc/Afrikaa
Zawavari-witch doctor of Wakanda
Houngan
Ayesha, Queen: Immortal queen of a hidden valley in Africa and sometime foe of the White Lion.
Black Jackal: Dark costumed assassin and foe of the White Lion with ties to the Egyptian death cult of Anubis (and through them with SHADOW and the Serpent People).
Ghostmane: Shaman foe of the White Lion and would-be usurper of the throne of Dakana.
Leopard King, the: African super-criminal who attempted to conquer central Africa in 1962 with an army of “Leopard-Men” until stopped by the White Lion and UN intervention
Silver Hyena (Dr. M’genda): African doctor and humanitarian bitten by a were-hyena and infected with its curse. The Silver Hyena is a humanoid with black and silver fur and a hyena’s head. It can mimic other voices and its laugh can induce fear, rage, and other emotions.
Grayskull She Ra/Dawn
Hordak Hordes Uruk hai
Serpentor/Snake Eyes spliced clones
White Shadow hordes of clones/different genders/races enough genetic diversity with white shadows completely under thrall
Hydra-Nick Fury clones
HAMMER-Captain America clones Militant
National Force American Panther, 88
Alex Wilder
Elisa Sinclair
Swarm
Monica Rappaccini
Head Case
League of Assassins clones of Bruce Wayne
Kobra
Uber-Woden's Blood-halo effect
Steed/blade/armor/crown/jewel/palace/archipelago/spaceships
Wrath-William Mallory/Elliot Caldwell-Jezebel Jet
Scorn- Andy Mallory/Clyde Anderson
Prometheus-Lynx
Owlman-Talia
Bane-Nyssa
Sin Tzu-Queen of Fables
Zatana
Poison Ivy
Tom 'Kamandi' Tomorrow' Thundarr
Shuffle(deck)/dice coin
SmokeShoxSteel-runic mystech phyrphazerpowerchainsword Shakalaka Badabingbangboomdoom
Teenage Shadow (Kent Allard) guns, knives, sword cane/umbrella/magic staff
Cybernary/Maaldor
The biggest flaw in Batman's philosophy is that by him refusing to kill off the criminals, many innocent die at the hands of these villians
Counter Productive much?
The Joker's killed over two thousand people men, women, children, his own henchmen, he once gassed an entire kindergarten class, took out a boy scout troop with poisoned cotton candy, boiled a baby and made the father drink the soup
an irredeemable, mass-murdering abomination who can never be stopped nor reasoned with
Indeed, Batman doesn't even work as a deterrent to crime as his the is no risk in facing him, even if you raped and killed every child in Gotham Batman would take you in alive, protect you from the capital punishment and probably throw you into Arkham so that you could do it to another city within a day given how well Arkham is guarded.
Batman's code is comic-book fine, real life flawed
Gotham City Impostors
As you know we are dedicated to honoring Batman's nobility through our words and deeds. Of course just as batman can afford fancier and more expensive gear and gadgets than us, so too can he afford to take a more honorable approach to crime fighting. his is the righteous path of blunt trauma and painful but nonlethal contusions ours is the more efficacious path of cordite and home brewed explosives.
Why fight crime when you can kill it
And besides if you read the actual comics that this game is based on you would know that gotham descended into total anarchy and batman was no where to be found. The citizens of gotham had no other choice but to gear up and fight back
Infinitia/Imaginatia
Devilslayer
Thaum/aturge/Thaumtech/Mystechnician/Ipsissimus/Iatromantis(psi/psy-entist/enser-super science/zcience sorcery-sorcer/zorcer/xorser(Force)-sourcentist-High/er/est Science) Metamutagenic Mystech Metaphysicist Metaphysicsian, Mad Doks, Wyrd Mek/Tek Boyz(Mekanica-machine)psybermancy/Warmage/Thaummaster/Master/Mistress Myth[Energy-fundamental forces of the universe/matter-solid/liquid/gas/plasma
Hephaestus guns/lasers/invisible jet
Might Beyond The Mirror Nikos Aegeus
Phantazmagoria/Micro Mega Giga Yocto Yotta Exa Atto Neo Nippon/Old Kroy
Questing Queen/Sheeda
Zatan “Zate” Xatan-double trident/two sword size
Xatana, X-666-Kandy Kane
Zenpool 2099
Destro/Mindbender
Kilgore arms commercial/Mandroid
Berserko, Samurai Jack
Beast Man/Mer-Man Evilseed
Triclops
Ring-enhance physically and mentally/tower of muscles/super intelligence (chimera-kaiju(imaginators)/plague/bots/armor/gadgets/)/mystic martial arts
Hit-Monkey/Mojo Jojo
Mark II Sentinel giant robot/X Collapsible suitcase sentinel/XI all terrain/XII nanobot sentinels/XIII tri Sentinel
nanoseeds/ Spore-Spawn/Swamp Thing (Parliaments/red/green/gray/black/metal-machine)/Jade/Black Orchid/Poison Ivy
Flying cars that don't need gas and last forever, computer that never need to be upgraded or plugged in
Generators that last forever infinite supply of energy, Energy/plasma weapons, flying cars, teleportation as well as space travel
benevolent Symbioids, loyal men of iron/DoomBots/Havokoids/Luthor War suits Hulkbusters Destroyer armors, Dread/Dream/Shine Knights ala Angelus Warriors
Neo Marz
Urth-opposite of earth's orbit
Akania/Neo Genesis: East and west of earth's orbit
Urthium, urthite, urthstone
Biomancy (bioroids)-White shadow Glow/Radiance Angelus/Darkness summon anything imaginable copy replicate infinitely mix and match light/dark gray prism (rainbow)/grayshades yinyang zinxang (Taijitu-Wuxing-Bagua)/Tomoe shadeshine/shineshade half angel/half demoness archangel half metal half organic some black some white wings kymira kaiju golem (imaginators)[Celestial Paragon/Archangel/(Saint)/Demon Lord/Arch Devil(Daemon Prince)](Dwarfs, Giants, Beastfolk, ogres trolls, Krork-Maestro/Leader/Doc Green/Doc Samson/Green Scar/Sakaarson/Nul “Breaker of Worlds” as well as Hobgoblin/Demogoblin, Eldar become Azurai Magno organic Amazos/Brother Grimm Warhammer Fantasy Elves, Angel/Fairy/Genie, Gnome, archgremlin/imp-antifairy, replicae (genetic diversity different races and genders) perfect human (captain America/Nick Fury/Cable) clone, enhance (cybernetic brains) completely under thrall Symbioids Justice Titans-Supermartian/Rann/(Skorp Von Warstar)Adam Strage-John Carter/Flash Gordon, Wonderhawk, Aquaorion, Alakazam-Captain Marvel/Shazam/Zatara-Doc Fate(Wyrd)Mandrake, Bat-Lantern, Zauriel, Superdemon, Squad Superman (Earth 14/33/13)
The Monk
Flesh/genetic golems under thrall cybernetic brains
Kryptonian Werewolf/Egyptia Latverion/Angor/Slovekia
Tom Strong
Major Bummer
Dezdemona Hell/Heaven/phyr/gem
Kozmozaz Empyrean Azgardia Archsaint Morpheus 'Deus Rex' Merovingian
Saintgard/Saint/soulphyr/St. Ivory/Halosteel
Trinity Equilibrium Ultraviolet
Captain Comet/Ultraa
Phyrstoneholysteel
Xout Dragozaur
food/fortress shmoo and all/omni fauna/flora/mineral equivalent trillions/infinite planets/universes, multiverses/dimensions- Worldscape/Heroscape
Post Scarcity
Motherbox App-Molecular assembler-omninanoforge/oven/replicator/matter compiler/cornucopia machine/universal constructor
Lust/Sloth/Gluttony
Sentry super soldier serum/Titan Venom/5-U-93-R pill/Exobyte potion, Vrykul bless every follower with it
Whiteshadow Triklops Jack o'lantern-Brainiac/Despero/Leader
Tree Dazzler
X-Mas Jack o lantern rocket ship tree forest Ents Tree Lords Warhammer Magic Tree of Nowhere
nanoseeds/ Spore-Spawn/Swamp Thing/Jade/Poison Ivy
One organic, one cybernetic, one half and half
Sublime/Arkea
Sentinel X Shogo
Latveria is one of the most advanced nations on Earth, but most of the landscape looks quaint and medieval—because Doctor Doom likes the quaint medieval look.
Wakanda, home of the Black Panther, goes even beyond Latveria in some versions. Someone might stumble on what looks like a harmless and primitive—at best Bronze Age—African village on the edge of the country and mistake it for an easy target only to discover the apparently decorative stone statues are shooting plasma bolts, armed flying drones are being launched from a wooden hut, and the spears those loincloth-wearing warriors are tossing? Rocket-boosted self-guided smart missiles with high explosive armour-piercing warheads. Techno organic jungle
Minor villain/heroic ally Arkon and his city Polemachus would count. Arkon is loincloth-wearing, sword-wielding barbarian who rides giant lizards, but carries thunderbolt-shaped energy spears that can open dimensional portals and be hurled for powerful energy bursts. The city he rules, Polemachus, is something out of a Frank Frazetta/Roger Dean album cover with such weirdtech as mind-controlling machines, but they somehow never develop atomic power (Arkon had to kidnap and brainwash Earth scientists to get the secret of developing nukes. The Schizo Tech elements get furthered as Arkon often goes raiding Earth and other dimensions for the opportunity to steal what technology Polemachus doesn't have, and his people have a highly developed use of sorcery and magic besides their own native science
White Lion (M’Balla): King of the African nation of Dakana, gifted with peak human strength, speed, and agility as well as a brilliant technical mind
daka: Crystals found only in the African nation of Dakana, able to channel various forms of energy. Sometimes erroneously known as “Dakana diamonds.” Dakana: African nation ruled by the White Lion and producer of daka crystals (cf. “Diamonds of Dakana” in Atom
Marvel Manga-verse, T’Challa is still King of Wakanda and when calling upon the help of the God Qamatha, he can transform into a Were-Panther. His appearance in the Were-Panther form is of a large humanoid panther in ancient Egyptian clothing. He can also call upon Qamathas's power to change himself into the Falcon. In this form, his appearance is heavily influenced by the ancient Egyptian god Horus. In this reality, his magical abilities are prominent as Dr. Strange notices his magical trail.
T'Calla in his Thrice-blessed Armor, wielding the Ebony Blade. T'Challa possess specialized Thrice-blessed Armor and Light Armor for specific Thrice-blesses armor functions the same way as Iron Man's armor, and is also enhanced with Magic abilities.
Egyptia
Doc Croc/Afrikaa
Zawavari-witch doctor of Wakanda
Houngan
Ayesha, Queen: Immortal queen of a hidden valley in Africa and sometime foe of the White Lion.
Black Jackal: Dark costumed assassin and foe of the White Lion with ties to the Egyptian death cult of Anubis (and through them with SHADOW and the Serpent People).
Ghostmane: Shaman foe of the White Lion and would-be usurper of the throne of Dakana.
Leopard King, the: African super-criminal who attempted to conquer central Africa in 1962 with an army of “Leopard-Men” until stopped by the White Lion and UN intervention
Silver Hyena (Dr. M’genda): African doctor and humanitarian bitten by a were-hyena and infected with its curse. The Silver Hyena is a humanoid with black and silver fur and a hyena’s head. It can mimic other voices and its laugh can induce fear, rage, and other emotions.
Grayskull She Ra/Dawn
Hordak Hordes Uruk hai
Serpentor/Snake Eyes spliced clones
White Shadow hordes of clones/different genders/races enough genetic diversity with white shadows completely under thrall
Hydra-Nick Fury clones
HAMMER-Captain America clones Militant
National Force American Panther, 88
Alex Wilder
Elisa Sinclair
Swarm
Monica Rappaccini
Head Case
League of Assassins clones of Bruce Wayne
Kobra
Uber-Woden's Blood-halo effect
Steed/blade/armor/crown/jewel/palace/archipelago/spaceships
Wrath-William Mallory/Elliot Caldwell-Jezebel Jet
Scorn- Andy Mallory/Clyde Anderson
Prometheus-Lynx
Owlman-Talia
Bane-Nyssa
Sin Tzu-Queen of Fables
Zatana
Poison Ivy
Tom 'Kamandi' Tomorrow' Thundarr
Shuffle(deck)/dice coin
SmokeShoxSteel-runic mystech phyrphazerpowerchainsword Shakalaka Badabingbangboomdoom
Teenage Shadow (Kent Allard) guns, knives, sword cane/umbrella/magic staff
Cybernary/Maaldor
6/8/2019 c1 Guest
War World
The villains even ones with godlike power may fear Joker but they are in awe of Lex Luthor
I like to think Lex like Adrian Veidt in Watchmen can go toe to toe with any non-powered hero develop his own fighting style and workout program in addition to being scientific/business/political overall Renaissance man, that his white suit as powerful as his power armor
I also think he should have nanotech that makes him like the Darkness or Spawn, robots like his power armor, Doomsdays and Bizarros that are stronger, smarter, faster, better looking than Supes hordes completely under his thrall
In the comics Mercy is an Amazon as in Wonder Woman can go toe to toe with Supes and she has a partner Hope I like to think they're from the Citizenry space Amazons ruled by Wonder Woman's aunt Astarte with guns as powerful as green lantern ring
As president Luthor eliminated the national debt, brought unemployment to almost zero, it was HIS leadership that got us through two alien invasions and even the heroes admit without it we would have fallen
Only through Lex has there ever been an instance where humanity unites and thrives in the cosmos
Until the citizens of the DCverse say they'd rather have Lex solve the problems of the world instead of super powered people punching things they don't deserve the cancer cure and etc
Lex Luthor goes out of his way to be a friendly, personable boss to the help, from his janitor to the guy who owns the newsstand near his building to Alfred Pennyworth when he meets Bruce Wayne, Lex is actually a very complex character, he appreciates honest, hard work, since he himself comes from a working-class background (he’s from Metropolis’s Suicide Slums, it was his inventions and leadership that made Metropolis a city of tomorrow that got Metropolis out of near fatal poverty), and he's not lying when he says that he has the ultimate well-being of humanity in mind HE should be the one in charge, but as long as he has that, he does try to make those under him live better lives. Lex has a good understanding of how economics work, so he knows that his financial empire is supported by average joes working blue-collar jobs
Humanity's fate should be in the hands of humans
Ancient humans were the settlers of Rann, Thanagar, and Krypton, life began on earth
Superman undermines humanity's worth and accomplishments
A civilized man accuses specific individuals of specific crimes felony and fraud otherwise people should mind their own business this does not mean we ignore things that aren't evil but are nevertheless dangerous
Everyone should be given powers and tech it's idiotic this isn't done the heroes care more about getting off on playing Mr. Son of God, strutting around going who’s got the bigger cock than actually improving the lives of the people
God made man Sam Colt made them equal
When you can dodge bullets, outfly missiles, and swim across the surface of the sun it's only a matter of time before you start thinking you've better things to do than save the world for the two hundredth time
In Kingdom Come The “Newbloods” spent their whole lives in terror of these villains, they see the older generation as ineffective
The "Newbloods" obviously took it too far but as they say they did save lives (some villains do need to be stopped permanently they keep breaking out of prison (Arkham is state of the art the most infamous denizens are just that good at escaping and they WILL kill in the dozens, hundreds, and thousands, some ARE that much of a threat to the people if not the heroes and it just seems sickeningly aristocratic) and butchering innocents the only reason they haven't put down the Joker I can figure is that the DCverse is the type of place someone like the Joker would break out of Hell and probably bring an army of demons to do his bidding) and they had new worse villains like the Slaughter Brigade to deal with, this is probably why the older heroes didn't step in until the "Newbloods" crossed the line, in a dark world heroes can be dark, but after they kill the villains, they have to stop if they still want to fight each other go to the middle of the desert not cities
Don't get me wrong lethal force should be used if and only if all other means are exhausted or unavailable to save lives or stop villains, I certainly don't want them slitting the throats of every single thug they come across (you do that you stop being a hero and become Frank Castle) if only because it could be an undercover cop doing his or her job
I hate how the heroes act like school bullies I get it when it’s sickos who enjoy killing people, the child molesters, the thugs too stupid to understand anything else, and crime lords even the ones who properly manage the implacable illicit businesses of city life (Illicit businesses are an implacable part of city life all prohibition does is make criminals rich), they’re probably still thieves and killers so keeping them on leashes is probably smart, but when they do it to the likes of Luthor and Maxwell Lord I almost understand doing things like dropping an atom bomb on Gotham to kill Batman
Not easy balancing liberty, prosperity and social stability, all anarchy does is leave us at the mercy of every thug and psychopath, great for mighty warriors not so much for the average man
People want fatty foods, loud music, regular sex, and flickering television images more than they want justice
I will always prefer villains who at least have a point and frighteningly may even be right about everyone being better off under their benevolent dictatorship (of course make education great so the common man does know what is best for him and his children's children and democratic republicanism can work) like Ra's al Ghul if the environment isn't brought into balance no matter the means or cost the future for the human race will be worse than any dystopian fiction and will lead to the extinction of the human race not through misadventure but suicide through stupidity or Lex Luthor who as he says if he was calling all the shots could end famine and cure cancer and he could his mind is capable of anything perhaps give everyone ultra high-tech nonpolluting technology and maybe even superpowers (without the White Martians ancient experiments all humanity would be like the Kryptonians or Daxamites) lead humanity and the rest of the universe to unimaginable glory remember Red Son he united all humanity and led us to a golden age that lasted millions of years, no poverty, disease, war, crime, terrorism, or environmental problems and science and art advance
A lot of villains seem unaware that if they used their mind and/or other talents for legitimate business causes or the government could be far more profitable than any crime spree
When you live in a world of such technology and people with four digit IQs why in the nine hells haven't you solved the world's problems of poverty and disease, everyone should be given tech (Sunstone/Fortress of Solitude/Wonderdome) and powers
Of course vigilantes can be sanctimonious hypocrites judging others and letting themselves go unscrutinized condemning others when they do the same thing for less reasons I think it is disgusting they don't share their scientific breakthroughs (of course inventors should be well compensated) with the scientific specifically medical community or their skills with law enforcement agencies far more good than beating up thugs and psychos fight crime at its source ignorance and poverty. I realize due to rarity and complexity mass production may not always be possible or at least cost effective and due to difficulty not all could take brutal training but a little bit could go a very, very long way. A hero doesn’t just save people a hero teaches the people to take care of themselves. The ability to think of future generation when calculating pragmatic utilitarianism is what separates us from the animals. The world is not the way it is because of thugs and psychopaths, corrupt businessmen/politicians (which contrary to fiction are the exception not the rule) but because most people are too stupid to know what is best for them the extreme left and extreme right get caught up in their ideals and refuse to acknowledge brutal facts of reality no real world understanding of the extreme complexities of politics, economics, technological logistics, and how they’re all interconnected in the long run. People want everything right here right now the whole world just handed to them on a silver platter think just by complaining something will happen without a tangible plan. Such a plan will require a lot of long, hard, boring work all day every day for generations.
There will always be some exploitation, the best and brightest will elevate themselves over the common man, it’s nature, best for the species, it improves the standard of living of the human race as a whole, as long as they don’t kill anyone or otherwise actively oppress, free trade and enterprise is the only thing that has ever led to long lasting meaningful peace
I'm glad the government has Suicide Squad, Cadmus, Checkmate, the Elite, Amanda Waller, and the new female Spy Smasher, Cameron Chase I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting accountability from superheroes, having checks and balances on these living breathing weapons of mass destruction seems quite reasonable to me one will go left when they should go right and innocent people will die it WILL happen, not saying black ops don't have their necessity they can be used as a force of good
Have you heard of The Boys
Say you’re Harry Truman, do you drop the bombs or do you drown the home islands in the blood of U.S. Marines BATMAN has no answer to that question
Sometimes the greatest good for the greatest number just means the least amount of suffering
Sometimes you have to cut deals with the lesser evil
Vetinari, The Ankh-Morpork Thieves and Assassins Guilds
War World
The villains even ones with godlike power may fear Joker but they are in awe of Lex Luthor
I like to think Lex like Adrian Veidt in Watchmen can go toe to toe with any non-powered hero develop his own fighting style and workout program in addition to being scientific/business/political overall Renaissance man, that his white suit as powerful as his power armor
I also think he should have nanotech that makes him like the Darkness or Spawn, robots like his power armor, Doomsdays and Bizarros that are stronger, smarter, faster, better looking than Supes hordes completely under his thrall
In the comics Mercy is an Amazon as in Wonder Woman can go toe to toe with Supes and she has a partner Hope I like to think they're from the Citizenry space Amazons ruled by Wonder Woman's aunt Astarte with guns as powerful as green lantern ring
As president Luthor eliminated the national debt, brought unemployment to almost zero, it was HIS leadership that got us through two alien invasions and even the heroes admit without it we would have fallen
Only through Lex has there ever been an instance where humanity unites and thrives in the cosmos
Until the citizens of the DCverse say they'd rather have Lex solve the problems of the world instead of super powered people punching things they don't deserve the cancer cure and etc
Lex Luthor goes out of his way to be a friendly, personable boss to the help, from his janitor to the guy who owns the newsstand near his building to Alfred Pennyworth when he meets Bruce Wayne, Lex is actually a very complex character, he appreciates honest, hard work, since he himself comes from a working-class background (he’s from Metropolis’s Suicide Slums, it was his inventions and leadership that made Metropolis a city of tomorrow that got Metropolis out of near fatal poverty), and he's not lying when he says that he has the ultimate well-being of humanity in mind HE should be the one in charge, but as long as he has that, he does try to make those under him live better lives. Lex has a good understanding of how economics work, so he knows that his financial empire is supported by average joes working blue-collar jobs
Humanity's fate should be in the hands of humans
Ancient humans were the settlers of Rann, Thanagar, and Krypton, life began on earth
Superman undermines humanity's worth and accomplishments
A civilized man accuses specific individuals of specific crimes felony and fraud otherwise people should mind their own business this does not mean we ignore things that aren't evil but are nevertheless dangerous
Everyone should be given powers and tech it's idiotic this isn't done the heroes care more about getting off on playing Mr. Son of God, strutting around going who’s got the bigger cock than actually improving the lives of the people
God made man Sam Colt made them equal
When you can dodge bullets, outfly missiles, and swim across the surface of the sun it's only a matter of time before you start thinking you've better things to do than save the world for the two hundredth time
In Kingdom Come The “Newbloods” spent their whole lives in terror of these villains, they see the older generation as ineffective
The "Newbloods" obviously took it too far but as they say they did save lives (some villains do need to be stopped permanently they keep breaking out of prison (Arkham is state of the art the most infamous denizens are just that good at escaping and they WILL kill in the dozens, hundreds, and thousands, some ARE that much of a threat to the people if not the heroes and it just seems sickeningly aristocratic) and butchering innocents the only reason they haven't put down the Joker I can figure is that the DCverse is the type of place someone like the Joker would break out of Hell and probably bring an army of demons to do his bidding) and they had new worse villains like the Slaughter Brigade to deal with, this is probably why the older heroes didn't step in until the "Newbloods" crossed the line, in a dark world heroes can be dark, but after they kill the villains, they have to stop if they still want to fight each other go to the middle of the desert not cities
Don't get me wrong lethal force should be used if and only if all other means are exhausted or unavailable to save lives or stop villains, I certainly don't want them slitting the throats of every single thug they come across (you do that you stop being a hero and become Frank Castle) if only because it could be an undercover cop doing his or her job
I hate how the heroes act like school bullies I get it when it’s sickos who enjoy killing people, the child molesters, the thugs too stupid to understand anything else, and crime lords even the ones who properly manage the implacable illicit businesses of city life (Illicit businesses are an implacable part of city life all prohibition does is make criminals rich), they’re probably still thieves and killers so keeping them on leashes is probably smart, but when they do it to the likes of Luthor and Maxwell Lord I almost understand doing things like dropping an atom bomb on Gotham to kill Batman
Not easy balancing liberty, prosperity and social stability, all anarchy does is leave us at the mercy of every thug and psychopath, great for mighty warriors not so much for the average man
People want fatty foods, loud music, regular sex, and flickering television images more than they want justice
I will always prefer villains who at least have a point and frighteningly may even be right about everyone being better off under their benevolent dictatorship (of course make education great so the common man does know what is best for him and his children's children and democratic republicanism can work) like Ra's al Ghul if the environment isn't brought into balance no matter the means or cost the future for the human race will be worse than any dystopian fiction and will lead to the extinction of the human race not through misadventure but suicide through stupidity or Lex Luthor who as he says if he was calling all the shots could end famine and cure cancer and he could his mind is capable of anything perhaps give everyone ultra high-tech nonpolluting technology and maybe even superpowers (without the White Martians ancient experiments all humanity would be like the Kryptonians or Daxamites) lead humanity and the rest of the universe to unimaginable glory remember Red Son he united all humanity and led us to a golden age that lasted millions of years, no poverty, disease, war, crime, terrorism, or environmental problems and science and art advance
A lot of villains seem unaware that if they used their mind and/or other talents for legitimate business causes or the government could be far more profitable than any crime spree
When you live in a world of such technology and people with four digit IQs why in the nine hells haven't you solved the world's problems of poverty and disease, everyone should be given tech (Sunstone/Fortress of Solitude/Wonderdome) and powers
Of course vigilantes can be sanctimonious hypocrites judging others and letting themselves go unscrutinized condemning others when they do the same thing for less reasons I think it is disgusting they don't share their scientific breakthroughs (of course inventors should be well compensated) with the scientific specifically medical community or their skills with law enforcement agencies far more good than beating up thugs and psychos fight crime at its source ignorance and poverty. I realize due to rarity and complexity mass production may not always be possible or at least cost effective and due to difficulty not all could take brutal training but a little bit could go a very, very long way. A hero doesn’t just save people a hero teaches the people to take care of themselves. The ability to think of future generation when calculating pragmatic utilitarianism is what separates us from the animals. The world is not the way it is because of thugs and psychopaths, corrupt businessmen/politicians (which contrary to fiction are the exception not the rule) but because most people are too stupid to know what is best for them the extreme left and extreme right get caught up in their ideals and refuse to acknowledge brutal facts of reality no real world understanding of the extreme complexities of politics, economics, technological logistics, and how they’re all interconnected in the long run. People want everything right here right now the whole world just handed to them on a silver platter think just by complaining something will happen without a tangible plan. Such a plan will require a lot of long, hard, boring work all day every day for generations.
There will always be some exploitation, the best and brightest will elevate themselves over the common man, it’s nature, best for the species, it improves the standard of living of the human race as a whole, as long as they don’t kill anyone or otherwise actively oppress, free trade and enterprise is the only thing that has ever led to long lasting meaningful peace
I'm glad the government has Suicide Squad, Cadmus, Checkmate, the Elite, Amanda Waller, and the new female Spy Smasher, Cameron Chase I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting accountability from superheroes, having checks and balances on these living breathing weapons of mass destruction seems quite reasonable to me one will go left when they should go right and innocent people will die it WILL happen, not saying black ops don't have their necessity they can be used as a force of good
Have you heard of The Boys
Say you’re Harry Truman, do you drop the bombs or do you drown the home islands in the blood of U.S. Marines BATMAN has no answer to that question
Sometimes the greatest good for the greatest number just means the least amount of suffering
Sometimes you have to cut deals with the lesser evil
Vetinari, The Ankh-Morpork Thieves and Assassins Guilds