for Priorities12/28/2019 c1 chrissyfan
Yeah, Foxy is back! Think of it this way. Courtney was supposed to be the false love but ha, she failed, failed, failed and then she was dead. Sam was minding her own business and got used and abused by Helena.
But, on to what you said about Jason and you are so right. I'm leaving out the rancid blonde airhead because she doesn't fit the profile and to this day I hate her as I have screeched a lot but yes, Jason is very good in the beginning and I think that is because he wants to fix and make things right for someone.
Robin- Jason was still figuring out who he is but he came into Robin's life in a time of despair for her. She was grieving Stone, dealing with her own diagnosis and was empty and contemplating suicide. Jason made her feel safe and cared for and they did pretty well for a long time.
Elizabeth- grieving Lucky, feeling empty and like she needs to put on a façade for everyone else and tried to be self destructive picking a fit at Jakes. Jason grieving giving up Michael, feeling empty and comes to her rescue. They brought each other out of " no where". Jason was kind, gentle, forthright and Elizabeth felt protected and she protected him right back.
Sam- Slight variation to the profile in the beginning but they did bond over grief and despair at Sam losing her baby. I expect that Sam also felt and experienced the Jason Elizabeth and Robin did and felt safe and protected.
They all have some form of grief, needing to belong and/or just feeling safe and Jason does that, at least in beginning.
Okay, Foxy as you know I wasn't keen on Sam from the beginning so didn't pay a lot of attention to early jasam so I'll need your input and yours too Chrissy.
Robin/Elizabeth- both at some point needed and wanted more or different from the relationship than Jason could proved. Robin ultimately "betrayed" Jason by telling AJ he was the daddy. They didn't mend their friendship for a long time. Elizabeth left Jason when Sonny faked his death and Jason couldn't tell her. People will say it is because she couldn't handle the life and that isn't it and she knew Jason couldn't talk about the business. Simply not true, the lie was part of it but she stayed in the PH afraid that Jason was hurt and she felt betrayed when Sonny popped up alive and she found out by watching the news. Jason didn't want to lie so he stayed away. He could have simply told her there is lot he couldn't say but was okay and they would talk when it was over. Elizabeth left and it took a while to repair their friendship. Both instances Elizabeth and Robin took the brunt of failure because they wanted to change the "terms" of the relationship.
Sam- Okay so the only version of Sam that I personally have ever seen is the Sam that would twist herself inside out and mold herself to fit whatever Jason needs. But, in conversing with you both, I've come to realize that there has to be more than that, Sam at some point had to have wanted more for herself and her relationship with Jason (not Drew's Jason but OG Jason) but all I can say is that like Robin and Elizabeth it seems Sam has borne the brunt of the break ups. So, is there a point where Sam wanted something more out of the relationship or something different than Jason could give?
Because as it stands fans like to take things out on the women but it seems that Jason's inability to move beyond the initial protector and fixer to ebb and flow with what his partner needs.
Don't get me wrong I am still ride or die JM, but this story and our conversations have shown that he had his own emotional barriers and has to have some kind of ownership in his relationships when the need to protect wears off and daily living sets in.
Okay sorry for such a long post but Foxy started me thinking about it and it all just came pouring out.
Yeah, Foxy is back! Think of it this way. Courtney was supposed to be the false love but ha, she failed, failed, failed and then she was dead. Sam was minding her own business and got used and abused by Helena.
But, on to what you said about Jason and you are so right. I'm leaving out the rancid blonde airhead because she doesn't fit the profile and to this day I hate her as I have screeched a lot but yes, Jason is very good in the beginning and I think that is because he wants to fix and make things right for someone.
Robin- Jason was still figuring out who he is but he came into Robin's life in a time of despair for her. She was grieving Stone, dealing with her own diagnosis and was empty and contemplating suicide. Jason made her feel safe and cared for and they did pretty well for a long time.
Elizabeth- grieving Lucky, feeling empty and like she needs to put on a façade for everyone else and tried to be self destructive picking a fit at Jakes. Jason grieving giving up Michael, feeling empty and comes to her rescue. They brought each other out of " no where". Jason was kind, gentle, forthright and Elizabeth felt protected and she protected him right back.
Sam- Slight variation to the profile in the beginning but they did bond over grief and despair at Sam losing her baby. I expect that Sam also felt and experienced the Jason Elizabeth and Robin did and felt safe and protected.
They all have some form of grief, needing to belong and/or just feeling safe and Jason does that, at least in beginning.
Okay, Foxy as you know I wasn't keen on Sam from the beginning so didn't pay a lot of attention to early jasam so I'll need your input and yours too Chrissy.
Robin/Elizabeth- both at some point needed and wanted more or different from the relationship than Jason could proved. Robin ultimately "betrayed" Jason by telling AJ he was the daddy. They didn't mend their friendship for a long time. Elizabeth left Jason when Sonny faked his death and Jason couldn't tell her. People will say it is because she couldn't handle the life and that isn't it and she knew Jason couldn't talk about the business. Simply not true, the lie was part of it but she stayed in the PH afraid that Jason was hurt and she felt betrayed when Sonny popped up alive and she found out by watching the news. Jason didn't want to lie so he stayed away. He could have simply told her there is lot he couldn't say but was okay and they would talk when it was over. Elizabeth left and it took a while to repair their friendship. Both instances Elizabeth and Robin took the brunt of failure because they wanted to change the "terms" of the relationship.
Sam- Okay so the only version of Sam that I personally have ever seen is the Sam that would twist herself inside out and mold herself to fit whatever Jason needs. But, in conversing with you both, I've come to realize that there has to be more than that, Sam at some point had to have wanted more for herself and her relationship with Jason (not Drew's Jason but OG Jason) but all I can say is that like Robin and Elizabeth it seems Sam has borne the brunt of the break ups. So, is there a point where Sam wanted something more out of the relationship or something different than Jason could give?
Because as it stands fans like to take things out on the women but it seems that Jason's inability to move beyond the initial protector and fixer to ebb and flow with what his partner needs.
Don't get me wrong I am still ride or die JM, but this story and our conversations have shown that he had his own emotional barriers and has to have some kind of ownership in his relationships when the need to protect wears off and daily living sets in.
Okay sorry for such a long post but Foxy started me thinking about it and it all just came pouring out.
12/28/2019 c1 jrchandlerfan
Yay Foxy's back! Lol, I think it's only been like 6 days, but it feels too long so big hug :D Awe well maybe if I can reform Jason somewhat in this then Jasam can be friends.
I agree about Sam and Liz. I like them both (just not the current version of Sam). I just know more about Sam since I'm a Davis girls fan. I wrote over 800 words of the next chapter last night, but I was getting so tired and got to a spot where I realized this is going to take a lot of thinking to get right lol. I probably won't be able to finish it until later on today because I have errands this morning then I might be going to see Little Women, but it would be like a 12:30 showing.
Yay Foxy's back! Lol, I think it's only been like 6 days, but it feels too long so big hug :D Awe well maybe if I can reform Jason somewhat in this then Jasam can be friends.
I agree about Sam and Liz. I like them both (just not the current version of Sam). I just know more about Sam since I'm a Davis girls fan. I wrote over 800 words of the next chapter last night, but I was getting so tired and got to a spot where I realized this is going to take a lot of thinking to get right lol. I probably won't be able to finish it until later on today because I have errands this morning then I might be going to see Little Women, but it would be like a 12:30 showing.
12/27/2019 c61 Foxyleo28
Chrissy you definitely did your thing with this mind mapping thing. Me n ChrissyFan were right in that guess of Liz/Sam. I won’t lie I was not happy (It’s a small part of me that had loved Jasam so long that I struggle just a little with the hate I have for them now. A part of me will always love them for when Sam was pregnant n Jadon treated her with kindness. I’ve come to realize I have loved them as friends more than I ever loved them as a couple. Seems whenever they become a couple Jason is less respectful n loving. I digress cause that soapbox was about to get real lol) Now after reading how she is the false love I’m not mad n I actually like it. I’m good with anything that clears the way for Sam to move on from Jason as anything more than friends or co-parents. I also like how this is the way I think of Helena smart n evil. I did not like how the show wrote what she did cause none of it made sense. Your way is better n really seems in character for her wanting to rule over people. I can’t wait for more. ChrissyFan I’m with you on how we get along. I don’t get on my soapbox about Liason out of respect for you also. I think if more of our shipdoms learned how to speak on what they love without having to bash Sam or Liz it wouldn’t be so ugly between us. I also think if we all took time to think we would realize Liz n Sam are more alike then different. They both have self esteem, family n bad choice in men issues. They both willing to fight dirty if they have to for what they want. They both love hard which makes it hard for them to let men go that they don’t need. I stop being so hard on Liason fans when I realized they feel the same way I feel about Dream. It sucks the show won’t give your ship a true try when you know they could be great. I stop disliking Liz when I realize she only goes by Jason’s actions. He goes to her, confides in her because he knows she loves him whenever he has an issue with Sam n that’s not her fault. I’m going to get off this soapbox now lol. I can’t wait for the next chapter n the sequel.
Chrissy you definitely did your thing with this mind mapping thing. Me n ChrissyFan were right in that guess of Liz/Sam. I won’t lie I was not happy (It’s a small part of me that had loved Jasam so long that I struggle just a little with the hate I have for them now. A part of me will always love them for when Sam was pregnant n Jadon treated her with kindness. I’ve come to realize I have loved them as friends more than I ever loved them as a couple. Seems whenever they become a couple Jason is less respectful n loving. I digress cause that soapbox was about to get real lol) Now after reading how she is the false love I’m not mad n I actually like it. I’m good with anything that clears the way for Sam to move on from Jason as anything more than friends or co-parents. I also like how this is the way I think of Helena smart n evil. I did not like how the show wrote what she did cause none of it made sense. Your way is better n really seems in character for her wanting to rule over people. I can’t wait for more. ChrissyFan I’m with you on how we get along. I don’t get on my soapbox about Liason out of respect for you also. I think if more of our shipdoms learned how to speak on what they love without having to bash Sam or Liz it wouldn’t be so ugly between us. I also think if we all took time to think we would realize Liz n Sam are more alike then different. They both have self esteem, family n bad choice in men issues. They both willing to fight dirty if they have to for what they want. They both love hard which makes it hard for them to let men go that they don’t need. I stop being so hard on Liason fans when I realized they feel the same way I feel about Dream. It sucks the show won’t give your ship a true try when you know they could be great. I stop disliking Liz when I realize she only goes by Jason’s actions. He goes to her, confides in her because he knows she loves him whenever he has an issue with Sam n that’s not her fault. I’m going to get off this soapbox now lol. I can’t wait for the next chapter n the sequel.
12/27/2019 c62 Foxyleo28
Merry belated Christmas you guys. I done missed a lot. I been checking my emails n I thought well I guess Chrissy taking off for Christmas now I realized I just didn’t get any updates. I don’t know if cause I commented while logged off but I been checking emails everyday for an update. I should have come on the site lesson learned. Now I’m going to read all the chapters n finished the comments and come back.
Merry belated Christmas you guys. I done missed a lot. I been checking my emails n I thought well I guess Chrissy taking off for Christmas now I realized I just didn’t get any updates. I don’t know if cause I commented while logged off but I been checking emails everyday for an update. I should have come on the site lesson learned. Now I’m going to read all the chapters n finished the comments and come back.
12/27/2019 c1 jrchandlerfan
Oh I had only seen part of the show on my lunch today, but just watched the Jasam scenes on youtube (not for Jasam, I wanted to see Danny and Scout lol). Jason got called away and Alexis took them home. It was kind of sweet, they were decorating. Then Jason brought Sam home (I didn't know that was going to happen, I don't follow a lot of spoilers anymore). Ned helped her get out. It was a sweet moment with Sam and the kids and Alexis, though short. And Sam's first scenes with the new Scout. I'm glad Alexis was part of it, even though like I said her part was short. I won't comment on the montage but I think you can imagine what it was... I'll watch the rest of the show on the weekend.
Oh I had only seen part of the show on my lunch today, but just watched the Jasam scenes on youtube (not for Jasam, I wanted to see Danny and Scout lol). Jason got called away and Alexis took them home. It was kind of sweet, they were decorating. Then Jason brought Sam home (I didn't know that was going to happen, I don't follow a lot of spoilers anymore). Ned helped her get out. It was a sweet moment with Sam and the kids and Alexis, though short. And Sam's first scenes with the new Scout. I'm glad Alexis was part of it, even though like I said her part was short. I won't comment on the montage but I think you can imagine what it was... I'll watch the rest of the show on the weekend.
12/27/2019 c1 jrchandlerfan
Thanks. I'm probably just being too sensitive. I'll stop responding. Just the part saying I think children are better off without their parents really got to me... they don't know me. Children are my passion especially those that come from broken homes pull at my heartstrings. Why they would jump to that based on my comments on a fictional character kind of hurts my feelings. Anyway, a lot of that they said didn't make sense anyway. Sorry for venting to you.
Speaking of Foxy, I miss her. Maybe after the holidays calm down she'll be back.
You're right, they could have done a lot worse to Drew. And being a fun uncle to Danny and Scout is a lot more than he is to Jake which is sad. I don't even know what I'd call him to Jake. He sees him maybe a handful of times a year, if even that much.
Okay wish me luck on starting the next chapter now that I've calmed down a bit lol. And again, so sorry for that vent.
Thanks. I'm probably just being too sensitive. I'll stop responding. Just the part saying I think children are better off without their parents really got to me... they don't know me. Children are my passion especially those that come from broken homes pull at my heartstrings. Why they would jump to that based on my comments on a fictional character kind of hurts my feelings. Anyway, a lot of that they said didn't make sense anyway. Sorry for venting to you.
Speaking of Foxy, I miss her. Maybe after the holidays calm down she'll be back.
You're right, they could have done a lot worse to Drew. And being a fun uncle to Danny and Scout is a lot more than he is to Jake which is sad. I don't even know what I'd call him to Jake. He sees him maybe a handful of times a year, if even that much.
Okay wish me luck on starting the next chapter now that I've calmed down a bit lol. And again, so sorry for that vent.
12/27/2019 c1 Chrissyfan
Aww, Chrissy. I'm sorry to hear that. I think we all get to voice our opinion on fictional characters and we all are not going to agree with each other but we can at least be constructive on how we say it. I don't think you did anything wrong. To be honest, until conversing with Foxyleo I had never had a pleasant interaction with a Jasam or Sam fan in any forum. Foxy has broken that mold and I adore her very much for it. I'd say more on the subject of how I feel about Jasam's fanbase and my negative interactions and feelings but I respect you and Foxy too much to go on that kind of rant in this venue.
That said I think you are probably right. Jason right now is more the fun uncle, but they are certainly setting it up for Scout to start calling Jason daddy and push Drew completely out of the picture. I always figured that once BM decided to leave Drew would be all but negated out of Scout's life. Honestly, I figured they were tear Drew down to do so I was surprised they took the out of sight out mind approach instead.
Aww, Chrissy. I'm sorry to hear that. I think we all get to voice our opinion on fictional characters and we all are not going to agree with each other but we can at least be constructive on how we say it. I don't think you did anything wrong. To be honest, until conversing with Foxyleo I had never had a pleasant interaction with a Jasam or Sam fan in any forum. Foxy has broken that mold and I adore her very much for it. I'd say more on the subject of how I feel about Jasam's fanbase and my negative interactions and feelings but I respect you and Foxy too much to go on that kind of rant in this venue.
That said I think you are probably right. Jason right now is more the fun uncle, but they are certainly setting it up for Scout to start calling Jason daddy and push Drew completely out of the picture. I always figured that once BM decided to leave Drew would be all but negated out of Scout's life. Honestly, I figured they were tear Drew down to do so I was surprised they took the out of sight out mind approach instead.
12/27/2019 c1 jrchandlerfan
I wouldn't exactly call him a good father to her, but I understand your point. In ABC Soaps in depth it said something about Jason didn't even move into Q mansion to be with them. I think he's being nothing more than a fun uncle who takes them for fun outings once in a while. What bothers me though is they'll make it as though he's being more than that by having Scout call him daddy.
Oh gosh, I really have to be careful about voicing my opinion about fictional characters... This is kind of upsetting. I'm being verbally attacked by Jasam fans on youtube :( I was talking about fictional characters. Somehow me saying I wouldn't call Jason a constant in Scout's life means I think children are better off without parents in their lives and I'm out of my mind. And that I should be the one to pay the child actors to be on set.
I wouldn't exactly call him a good father to her, but I understand your point. In ABC Soaps in depth it said something about Jason didn't even move into Q mansion to be with them. I think he's being nothing more than a fun uncle who takes them for fun outings once in a while. What bothers me though is they'll make it as though he's being more than that by having Scout call him daddy.
Oh gosh, I really have to be careful about voicing my opinion about fictional characters... This is kind of upsetting. I'm being verbally attacked by Jasam fans on youtube :( I was talking about fictional characters. Somehow me saying I wouldn't call Jason a constant in Scout's life means I think children are better off without parents in their lives and I'm out of my mind. And that I should be the one to pay the child actors to be on set.
12/27/2019 c62 chrissyfan
*sigh* well at least GH Jason is being a good father to his brother's child. It seems like he runs into Cam more than he seeks out his own son.
I don't mind Aiden being Lucky's son. He has enough of his mother's dna to push out the unfortunate Spencer dna. I saw a pic of the kid who plays him, he is really cute.
*sigh* well at least GH Jason is being a good father to his brother's child. It seems like he runs into Cam more than he seeks out his own son.
I don't mind Aiden being Lucky's son. He has enough of his mother's dna to push out the unfortunate Spencer dna. I saw a pic of the kid who plays him, he is really cute.
12/27/2019 c1 jrchandlerfan
At my mom’s for lunch and she has gh on. Leo is visiting Santa Claus, then Jason comes with Danny and Scout clinging to him _ Trying to ignore who brought them... the kids make me think of my story. Scout told Santa she wants her mommy to come awwww. Cam is there handing out candy canes.
Yeah I like the idea of Cam being Jason’s. He totally looks like a Liason child even more than Jake who just looks like Jason. I won’t be changing Aiden though. I know you don’t like lucky but it works for what I have planned later on if I get to it for him to stay a Spencer though I have no plans atm to bring in lucky. I have a big part planned for Soras’d Aiden in a third book.
At my mom’s for lunch and she has gh on. Leo is visiting Santa Claus, then Jason comes with Danny and Scout clinging to him _ Trying to ignore who brought them... the kids make me think of my story. Scout told Santa she wants her mommy to come awwww. Cam is there handing out candy canes.
Yeah I like the idea of Cam being Jason’s. He totally looks like a Liason child even more than Jake who just looks like Jason. I won’t be changing Aiden though. I know you don’t like lucky but it works for what I have planned later on if I get to it for him to stay a Spencer though I have no plans atm to bring in lucky. I have a big part planned for Soras’d Aiden in a third book.
12/27/2019 c62 chrissyfan
I had to read the chapter again to make sure I didn't miss anything. Ohhhhhhhhh, so my Cam could be dangerous to the cause. I like it. Anytime there is Failed next to Courtney Matthews leaves me just giddy with delight. I think the timeline is good, it is to the point. I'm sure there is someone with more knowledge who could elaborate but it is your story and you get to tweak it as you see fit.
You have hard hearted me definitely feeling badly for Sam. They were all used but Sam is going to bear the brunt of it a bit more. I was wondering why she and Elizabeth had mixed up memories and now I get it.
Only a couple of authors have recanted Cam's paternity. Most often it revolves around Em's near death even when Liz and Jason comforted each other and then somehow lost their memories of that night and usually Court, Sonny or Carly knew and tampered with the paternity test and I like all those as well but I think that erasing both Jason and Elizabeth's memories this way gives him a clean slate to start with Cam. Bloody hell if Lucky Spencer can have every excuse under the sun from brainwashing to addiction to Elizabeth was a bad wife made me do it. Sam, Elizabeth and Jason can have a MME (Memory Mapping Event). You are correct this way makes everything that happened Helena's fault and they can start fresh in whichever direction you take them. I love it.
I had to read the chapter again to make sure I didn't miss anything. Ohhhhhhhhh, so my Cam could be dangerous to the cause. I like it. Anytime there is Failed next to Courtney Matthews leaves me just giddy with delight. I think the timeline is good, it is to the point. I'm sure there is someone with more knowledge who could elaborate but it is your story and you get to tweak it as you see fit.
You have hard hearted me definitely feeling badly for Sam. They were all used but Sam is going to bear the brunt of it a bit more. I was wondering why she and Elizabeth had mixed up memories and now I get it.
Only a couple of authors have recanted Cam's paternity. Most often it revolves around Em's near death even when Liz and Jason comforted each other and then somehow lost their memories of that night and usually Court, Sonny or Carly knew and tampered with the paternity test and I like all those as well but I think that erasing both Jason and Elizabeth's memories this way gives him a clean slate to start with Cam. Bloody hell if Lucky Spencer can have every excuse under the sun from brainwashing to addiction to Elizabeth was a bad wife made me do it. Sam, Elizabeth and Jason can have a MME (Memory Mapping Event). You are correct this way makes everything that happened Helena's fault and they can start fresh in whichever direction you take them. I love it.
12/26/2019 c62 
20jrchandlerfan1
Oh good I’m glad the timeline of it made sense because my head was spinning writing it lol. I thought of you while writing the Liason and Cameron bits. Though I feel so bad for Sam. But I thought this was a good way to destroy JaSam without making either party the bad guy, they were all victims. The Carly bit was my favourite though lol made me laugh.
20jrchandlerfan1Oh good I’m glad the timeline of it made sense because my head was spinning writing it lol. I thought of you while writing the Liason and Cameron bits. Though I feel so bad for Sam. But I thought this was a good way to destroy JaSam without making either party the bad guy, they were all victims. The Carly bit was my favourite though lol made me laugh.
12/26/2019 c62 Chrissyfan
Whoa, this was fabulous and I'm glad you are making it into two parts. I can't wait to see how you utilize Drew in all of this as well. The way you have explained everyone and the time line and what happened is perfect. Can't wait until you get to Drew. I hope Julian realizes that Alexis and Sam are missing and goes looking for them. Look forward to the next update.
Whoa, this was fabulous and I'm glad you are making it into two parts. I can't wait to see how you utilize Drew in all of this as well. The way you have explained everyone and the time line and what happened is perfect. Can't wait until you get to Drew. I hope Julian realizes that Alexis and Sam are missing and goes looking for them. Look forward to the next update.
12/26/2019 c1 chrissyfan
I haven't read what you are doing of course, but don't over think it in terms of Zander, he really didn't work for Sonny that long to make an over all impact. You just had me going down memory lane with your questions and the comment on Sonny and I remembered the meat hook incident. I am sure that what you are doing will be more than fine.
I haven't read what you are doing of course, but don't over think it in terms of Zander, he really didn't work for Sonny that long to make an over all impact. You just had me going down memory lane with your questions and the comment on Sonny and I remembered the meat hook incident. I am sure that what you are doing will be more than fine.
12/26/2019 c1 jrchandlerfan
Wait, Zander replaced Jason? Aye aye aye... maybe this story is too above my head. I've been working on the chapter on and off all day. I thought this was a really cool idea, but Idk if I know enough of the history to pull it off. Too late to go back now. I'm going to my aunt's tonight and will probably be back late, so the chapter likely won't be finished until the weekend. It's a long one, unless I split it into two.
I remember Karen a bit on PC. Seems like Scott has a million long lost kids lol (Karen, Logan, Franco).
Wait, Zander replaced Jason? Aye aye aye... maybe this story is too above my head. I've been working on the chapter on and off all day. I thought this was a really cool idea, but Idk if I know enough of the history to pull it off. Too late to go back now. I'm going to my aunt's tonight and will probably be back late, so the chapter likely won't be finished until the weekend. It's a long one, unless I split it into two.
I remember Karen a bit on PC. Seems like Scott has a million long lost kids lol (Karen, Logan, Franco).