for Fate: Bonds Beyond Humanity5/9 c63 
9K. M. Donovan
in other words, you wanted to stir the pot by adding more drama.
unneeded drama i might add.
not every plot needs grand twists, epic plots, or insane narcissistic villains.
also, the greeks are supposed to have moved on from many of their old ways by this point.
yes, you are going with the nasuverse interpretations, but you cannot go with ONLY the nasuverse interpretations. to be a crossover you need to COMBINE both worlds.
meaning you use the nasuverse for the ore, and then TEMPER things with DXD. that means dulling and suppressing some of the darker parts of the various pantheons.
like noble phantasms, gods are bound by their Mythos. this means that their current personalities are mirrored in their mythology.
the interpretation of Aphrodite you are using is STRAIGHT from the old greek myths. yet ALL of the gods are supposed to have MELLOWED in the past few centuries. and this is primarily due to their myth's changing due to popular culture, and just plain old cultural drift.
meaning Aphrodite should not still be the possessive manipulative jealous bitch she was in greek myth. yes those traits are still present, but they should be tempered by time and the changes to her myth's brought on by cultural erosion.
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you want to go with Nasuverse? fine. i acknowledge how fucked up that multiverse is. that is not the problem.
the problem, is that your version of Aphrodite has not changed from her darker self shown in greek myth. if anything she has gotten WORSE and sunk DEEPER into her darker aspects. something that is completely OPPOSITE to how events are supposed to have ocured.
and finally, after that fight, and a clear show of foreign divine power? the Shinto pantheon should have been CRAWLING all OVER Fuyuki in an instant.
Medusa was hiding, and coexisting within Fuyuki. Aphrodite's actions on the other hand should have sent up a barrage of nuclear fireworks proclaiming to the Shinto Pantheon "HELLO, FOREIGN DEITY MUCKING AROUND IN YOU TERRITORY WITHOUT PERMISSION!"
yet there was ZERO reaction, and she got away with suborning Rin's mind and will, and turning her into her puppet.
thus you are falling into a plothole that MANY authors fall into. trying to increase the stakes and emulate genuine consequence. only in doing so, they overcomplicate their plot, drag the story into unneeded drama, all for the sake of the shock value.
you were doing perfectly fine, but you keep trying to push this concept of "Genuine consequence" as a driving point, and in the end? you end up shoving it down our throats in such a way that it becomes wore of a slog to read through then a genuinely enjoyable plot point.
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the implied rape and mind-fuckery? this is Nasuverse, that is implicit and expected. but having the gods REGRESS rather then PROGRESS? and being able to act within the territory of other gods WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE?
that is where i draw the line.
you are pushing this whole theme of actions having unforeseen outcomes. but the moment you involve the gods, they can just do whatever they want wherever they want, and none of the other pantheons notice or give a shit?
yea-no. not buying it for even 1 nanosecond.
and before you feed me a line about Aphrodite hiding her presence from the other pantheons?
take a moment and re read that sentence. Aphrodite, HIDING.
yeah, that is not her thing. she is too vain to hide. EVER. and the ability to cloak herself from other gods? that was never in her wheelhouse.
Artemis? maybe, Athena? possibly. Aphrodite? never.
subtle is NOT her strong suit.
especially considering she is in fact a TITAN, not a goddess.
she was born when Kronos cut off the testicles of Ouranos and they fell into the sea. she was then born from the sea foam that resulted from the splash.
she then sided with the Olympians during the Titanomachy, and was one of the few that Zeus welcomed onto Olympus as one of the Greek Gods. but she is still a Titan.
moving on from that brief tangent, Aphrodite can no more hide herself then Artemis can stop hunting, or Athena stop strategizing. it is a literal and physical impossibility in both her personality, and her very nature. Aphrodite is physically incapable of hiding who and what she is.
and as such, the MOMENT the mirror world broke and she had to stop Rin's last ditch attack? that would have sent up a flare that alerted every Shinto Deity that a foreign god was messing around on their turf.
and there is nothing you can say that will convince me otherwise. it is just not possible.
9K. M. Donovanin other words, you wanted to stir the pot by adding more drama.
unneeded drama i might add.
not every plot needs grand twists, epic plots, or insane narcissistic villains.
also, the greeks are supposed to have moved on from many of their old ways by this point.
yes, you are going with the nasuverse interpretations, but you cannot go with ONLY the nasuverse interpretations. to be a crossover you need to COMBINE both worlds.
meaning you use the nasuverse for the ore, and then TEMPER things with DXD. that means dulling and suppressing some of the darker parts of the various pantheons.
like noble phantasms, gods are bound by their Mythos. this means that their current personalities are mirrored in their mythology.
the interpretation of Aphrodite you are using is STRAIGHT from the old greek myths. yet ALL of the gods are supposed to have MELLOWED in the past few centuries. and this is primarily due to their myth's changing due to popular culture, and just plain old cultural drift.
meaning Aphrodite should not still be the possessive manipulative jealous bitch she was in greek myth. yes those traits are still present, but they should be tempered by time and the changes to her myth's brought on by cultural erosion.
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you want to go with Nasuverse? fine. i acknowledge how fucked up that multiverse is. that is not the problem.
the problem, is that your version of Aphrodite has not changed from her darker self shown in greek myth. if anything she has gotten WORSE and sunk DEEPER into her darker aspects. something that is completely OPPOSITE to how events are supposed to have ocured.
and finally, after that fight, and a clear show of foreign divine power? the Shinto pantheon should have been CRAWLING all OVER Fuyuki in an instant.
Medusa was hiding, and coexisting within Fuyuki. Aphrodite's actions on the other hand should have sent up a barrage of nuclear fireworks proclaiming to the Shinto Pantheon "HELLO, FOREIGN DEITY MUCKING AROUND IN YOU TERRITORY WITHOUT PERMISSION!"
yet there was ZERO reaction, and she got away with suborning Rin's mind and will, and turning her into her puppet.
thus you are falling into a plothole that MANY authors fall into. trying to increase the stakes and emulate genuine consequence. only in doing so, they overcomplicate their plot, drag the story into unneeded drama, all for the sake of the shock value.
you were doing perfectly fine, but you keep trying to push this concept of "Genuine consequence" as a driving point, and in the end? you end up shoving it down our throats in such a way that it becomes wore of a slog to read through then a genuinely enjoyable plot point.
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the implied rape and mind-fuckery? this is Nasuverse, that is implicit and expected. but having the gods REGRESS rather then PROGRESS? and being able to act within the territory of other gods WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE?
that is where i draw the line.
you are pushing this whole theme of actions having unforeseen outcomes. but the moment you involve the gods, they can just do whatever they want wherever they want, and none of the other pantheons notice or give a shit?
yea-no. not buying it for even 1 nanosecond.
and before you feed me a line about Aphrodite hiding her presence from the other pantheons?
take a moment and re read that sentence. Aphrodite, HIDING.
yeah, that is not her thing. she is too vain to hide. EVER. and the ability to cloak herself from other gods? that was never in her wheelhouse.
Artemis? maybe, Athena? possibly. Aphrodite? never.
subtle is NOT her strong suit.
especially considering she is in fact a TITAN, not a goddess.
she was born when Kronos cut off the testicles of Ouranos and they fell into the sea. she was then born from the sea foam that resulted from the splash.
she then sided with the Olympians during the Titanomachy, and was one of the few that Zeus welcomed onto Olympus as one of the Greek Gods. but she is still a Titan.
moving on from that brief tangent, Aphrodite can no more hide herself then Artemis can stop hunting, or Athena stop strategizing. it is a literal and physical impossibility in both her personality, and her very nature. Aphrodite is physically incapable of hiding who and what she is.
and as such, the MOMENT the mirror world broke and she had to stop Rin's last ditch attack? that would have sent up a flare that alerted every Shinto Deity that a foreign god was messing around on their turf.
and there is nothing you can say that will convince me otherwise. it is just not possible.
5/9 c62 Barbatus Lupus Rex
Never before have i felt so much hatred for one character, but this lakmia proves that i can.
Never before have i felt so much hatred for one character, but this lakmia proves that i can.
5/6 c97 Bell Cranel
There used to be a fanfic called "The Amazing Adventures of Hyoudou Issei in Another World" where Issei Hyoudou ended up in the world of the anime "Bleach", in which Kurasaki Ichigo was never born. A certain Cosmic Spirit decided to show the events of this world to the characters of DxD. It was well explained how exactly he got the power of Quincy and Hollow. The thing is that according to the plot of the fanfic, Issei was 6 years old and he was sick and at night the "Cosmic Spirit" came to him, who offered him a deal that he would cure him in exchange for Issei himself living his life in another world and he agreed. In the morning, everyone found that Issei was healthy, and he himself thought that everything that happened at night was a dream, but a couple of days later the Spirit appeared to him again and said that it was time to fulfill the promise. Issei was shocked when he was teleported to the world of Bleach, and Ddraig was turned into an external copy of Issei so that his parents would not notice the substitution. At the same time, the Spirit erased his memories of being from another reality. While Issei was wandering the streets of Karakura Town at night, he was attacked by a Hollow, who injured him, but Masaki Kurasaki managed to save him and she brought him, injured, to the hospital to her husband. It turned out that due to the wound, he lost a lot of blood and needed a transfusion, fortunately Masaki had the same blood type as Issei, and he was transfused with her blood. Thus, Issei Hyoudou, thanks to Masaki Kurasaki's blood, received part of her Quincy powers and the power of a Hollow. But he received the power of a Shinigami from Rukia Kuchiki, as it was in the anime Bleach!
There used to be a fanfic called "The Amazing Adventures of Hyoudou Issei in Another World" where Issei Hyoudou ended up in the world of the anime "Bleach", in which Kurasaki Ichigo was never born. A certain Cosmic Spirit decided to show the events of this world to the characters of DxD. It was well explained how exactly he got the power of Quincy and Hollow. The thing is that according to the plot of the fanfic, Issei was 6 years old and he was sick and at night the "Cosmic Spirit" came to him, who offered him a deal that he would cure him in exchange for Issei himself living his life in another world and he agreed. In the morning, everyone found that Issei was healthy, and he himself thought that everything that happened at night was a dream, but a couple of days later the Spirit appeared to him again and said that it was time to fulfill the promise. Issei was shocked when he was teleported to the world of Bleach, and Ddraig was turned into an external copy of Issei so that his parents would not notice the substitution. At the same time, the Spirit erased his memories of being from another reality. While Issei was wandering the streets of Karakura Town at night, he was attacked by a Hollow, who injured him, but Masaki Kurasaki managed to save him and she brought him, injured, to the hospital to her husband. It turned out that due to the wound, he lost a lot of blood and needed a transfusion, fortunately Masaki had the same blood type as Issei, and he was transfused with her blood. Thus, Issei Hyoudou, thanks to Masaki Kurasaki's blood, received part of her Quincy powers and the power of a Hollow. But he received the power of a Shinigami from Rukia Kuchiki, as it was in the anime Bleach!
5/4 c81 Rankin de Merthyr
Dammit! I wish the hero faction bled even more! For being such massive hypocrites, they deserve to lose more!
Dammit! I wish the hero faction bled even more! For being such massive hypocrites, they deserve to lose more!
4/28 c97 Urivor
hmm, was ravels whole point of existing stacking rias side there? eh, i might be over reaching, im still not very sympathetic towards the fried chicken,
also, that was a jab at campione, not even gonna question it xD, good stuff, cant help but hear Pandora sneezing in the background for being called out
thank you for the new chapter, much enjoy, even the emotional turmoil and tense situations
hmm, was ravels whole point of existing stacking rias side there? eh, i might be over reaching, im still not very sympathetic towards the fried chicken,
also, that was a jab at campione, not even gonna question it xD, good stuff, cant help but hear Pandora sneezing in the background for being called out
thank you for the new chapter, much enjoy, even the emotional turmoil and tense situations
4/28 c47 9K. M. Donovan
Sefar the White Titan. so rather then ending the Age of Gods, they all gathered and wiped it out completely, rather then leaving pieces of it still intact. which would also mean, a fragment of it did NOT become Atilla the Hun. likely an actual human took up that role.
but with the "Distance" of the Throne of Heroes currently, it is likely to be a LOOOONG time, if ever, before we can see any Heroic Spirits manifest. thus there is no way to confirm if a New Atilla was created within the throne due to the lack of Sefar's remains.
though, if you buffed Caliburn, did you also buff Excalibur as well? would make sense if you did. given your current Head Canon for this fic.
9K. M. DonovanSefar the White Titan. so rather then ending the Age of Gods, they all gathered and wiped it out completely, rather then leaving pieces of it still intact. which would also mean, a fragment of it did NOT become Atilla the Hun. likely an actual human took up that role.
but with the "Distance" of the Throne of Heroes currently, it is likely to be a LOOOONG time, if ever, before we can see any Heroic Spirits manifest. thus there is no way to confirm if a New Atilla was created within the throne due to the lack of Sefar's remains.
though, if you buffed Caliburn, did you also buff Excalibur as well? would make sense if you did. given your current Head Canon for this fic.
4/28 c46 K. M. Donovan
who is Ace? hmm, i wonder Coughazazelcough.
ahem, sorry about that, must of had something in my throat.
...pfft, yeah right.
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honestly though, anyone who has read DXD in any format knows that Issei's new client "Ace" is actually Azazel, governor General of the Grigori. and Sacred gear fanboy extraordinaire.
who is Ace? hmm, i wonder Coughazazelcough.
ahem, sorry about that, must of had something in my throat.
...pfft, yeah right.
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honestly though, anyone who has read DXD in any format knows that Issei's new client "Ace" is actually Azazel, governor General of the Grigori. and Sacred gear fanboy extraordinaire.
4/27 c97 cesar918
Really wanted to see the Super Natural World and Gods reaction to Loki's death by Shirou. But still good chapter the build up for what's to come, can't wait for the next chapter.
Really wanted to see the Super Natural World and Gods reaction to Loki's death by Shirou. But still good chapter the build up for what's to come, can't wait for the next chapter.
4/27 c97 Bell Cranel
It is obvious that Rias Gremory is a pathetic, stupid, selfish, and arrogant character. People need to understand that almost all of Issei's girls in his harem are almost useless except for Ravel Phoenix, Ophis, and Kunou. Even Ravel is better and more useful than Rias, a simple example is that after their marriage, Ravel took Issei's last name and became known as Ravel Hyoudou, while Rias did not take her husband's last name like Ravel did. Ravel's daughter, Robertina Hyoudou, loves and respects her father more than any of her siblings, while Rias' son is as greedy and selfish as his pathetic mother!
It is obvious that Rias Gremory is a pathetic, stupid, selfish, and arrogant character. People need to understand that almost all of Issei's girls in his harem are almost useless except for Ravel Phoenix, Ophis, and Kunou. Even Ravel is better and more useful than Rias, a simple example is that after their marriage, Ravel took Issei's last name and became known as Ravel Hyoudou, while Rias did not take her husband's last name like Ravel did. Ravel's daughter, Robertina Hyoudou, loves and respects her father more than any of her siblings, while Rias' son is as greedy and selfish as his pathetic mother!
4/27 c97 I-D-10-T
Well~ honestly~ forgive me for being either, a realist or like a smartass but,
Rias needs to be looked down on, or more humbled I'd say.
I get what Rias being angry is about, seriously though,
this story does not need her at every juncture, just to move forward all the time, you know?
As far as I see it, Rias simp's just want her to be an just about every effective scenario,
whether she's genuinely needed or not, just because they want her in it.
Rias may have protagonist plot-armor, but in her case, it's the wrong kind.
She may be the lover of Emiya Shirou, but this is not her story, so she should not,
have to be involved with everything, that Shirou goes through...
Plainly speaking, she comes of as too clingy, and spoiled rotten.
I for one think that, there needs to be, less, of her, in the story,
and only WHEN she is required, should she be made an part of it.
Far too many, EmiyaXRias stories have her be,
right next to said protagonist, throughout most of them...
A little less of her is always, an good thing, in my most brutally honest, yet blunt opinion.
Plus she needs to face the reality that, she cannot have everything go her way.
Oh yes her opinion is nice and all, but sometimes, said opinion,
has no place in the lives of other's around her...(control~ freak)
Well~ honestly~ forgive me for being either, a realist or like a smartass but,
Rias needs to be looked down on, or more humbled I'd say.
I get what Rias being angry is about, seriously though,
this story does not need her at every juncture, just to move forward all the time, you know?
As far as I see it, Rias simp's just want her to be an just about every effective scenario,
whether she's genuinely needed or not, just because they want her in it.
Rias may have protagonist plot-armor, but in her case, it's the wrong kind.
She may be the lover of Emiya Shirou, but this is not her story, so she should not,
have to be involved with everything, that Shirou goes through...
Plainly speaking, she comes of as too clingy, and spoiled rotten.
I for one think that, there needs to be, less, of her, in the story,
and only WHEN she is required, should she be made an part of it.
Far too many, EmiyaXRias stories have her be,
right next to said protagonist, throughout most of them...
A little less of her is always, an good thing, in my most brutally honest, yet blunt opinion.
Plus she needs to face the reality that, she cannot have everything go her way.
Oh yes her opinion is nice and all, but sometimes, said opinion,
has no place in the lives of other's around her...(control~ freak)
4/26 c35 K. M. Donovan
i always figured in the event of a Nasuverse/DXD crossover that the Excalibur that the fragments came from was another sword. that the true excalibur was returned to the lake, and that the church/God created a second sword called Excalibur.
and that second blade was the one that broke.
to be honest, i do think the true excalibur CAN be broken. the materials used, the method, it's purpose, accumulated legends etc.
i mean, Excalibur is MORE then just a Noble Phantasm. it is a LAST Phantasm. created by the fae, at the behest of the world, to defeat an enemy from beyond the stars, the White Titan. which it did.
it then passed through i think two other sets of hands before being gifted to Arturia. whose use of the weapon empowered it's myth more then any other user. turning Excalibur into one the single most well known swords in human history.
with a legend like that, and how NP draw power from their legends? there is no way ANYONE could shatter Excalibur. it's very existence would reject the breaking.
that is why i do not believe the Excalibur shards from DXD are made from the True Excalibur, but from another sword that shares its name.
maybe Excalibur Galatine? the sword of Gawain? it shares the name Excalibur, and is weaker then the true sword, but still VERY powerful, containing power equal to that of the sun.
either way i cannot accept the True Excalibur breaking for ANY reason. Caliburn? sure. that sword was forged by Merlin if memory serves. and it is reported to have broken in battle. the very act of which is what lead to Artoria taking up Excalibur in the first place.
i always figured in the event of a Nasuverse/DXD crossover that the Excalibur that the fragments came from was another sword. that the true excalibur was returned to the lake, and that the church/God created a second sword called Excalibur.
and that second blade was the one that broke.
to be honest, i do think the true excalibur CAN be broken. the materials used, the method, it's purpose, accumulated legends etc.
i mean, Excalibur is MORE then just a Noble Phantasm. it is a LAST Phantasm. created by the fae, at the behest of the world, to defeat an enemy from beyond the stars, the White Titan. which it did.
it then passed through i think two other sets of hands before being gifted to Arturia. whose use of the weapon empowered it's myth more then any other user. turning Excalibur into one the single most well known swords in human history.
with a legend like that, and how NP draw power from their legends? there is no way ANYONE could shatter Excalibur. it's very existence would reject the breaking.
that is why i do not believe the Excalibur shards from DXD are made from the True Excalibur, but from another sword that shares its name.
maybe Excalibur Galatine? the sword of Gawain? it shares the name Excalibur, and is weaker then the true sword, but still VERY powerful, containing power equal to that of the sun.
either way i cannot accept the True Excalibur breaking for ANY reason. Caliburn? sure. that sword was forged by Merlin if memory serves. and it is reported to have broken in battle. the very act of which is what lead to Artoria taking up Excalibur in the first place.
4/26 c97 xXwolfsterXx644
Amazing Chapter dude like usual definitely Can't wait for the next update and see what happens next with the news of Loki's death
Amazing Chapter dude like usual definitely Can't wait for the next update and see what happens next with the news of Loki's death
4/26 c32 K. M. Donovan
Rule Breaker will soon be destroyed. but as any Nasuverse fan knows, there is still another way for Shirou to add it to his armory.
the Grail is still in play, and with it almost filled with Mana? the grail war approaches. all Shirou needs to do is witness Medea as Caster with the dagger, and it is his.
or maybe Ilya will pulloff a Heavens feel all her own, and Medea will be summoned that way. or maybe the Grand order will occur in some form.
there are numerous ways for Medea to be summoned and for Shirou to witness Rule Breaker.
all one needs, is some patience, some ingenuity, and a "Golden Opportunity".
Rule Breaker will soon be destroyed. but as any Nasuverse fan knows, there is still another way for Shirou to add it to his armory.
the Grail is still in play, and with it almost filled with Mana? the grail war approaches. all Shirou needs to do is witness Medea as Caster with the dagger, and it is his.
or maybe Ilya will pulloff a Heavens feel all her own, and Medea will be summoned that way. or maybe the Grand order will occur in some form.
there are numerous ways for Medea to be summoned and for Shirou to witness Rule Breaker.
all one needs, is some patience, some ingenuity, and a "Golden Opportunity".
4/26 c31 K. M. Donovan
makes sense for Rias to have a Stand, especially when you consider Gasper is basically Dio Brando.
he is a Vampire who can stop time. need I say more?
tell me I am wrong.
makes sense for Rias to have a Stand, especially when you consider Gasper is basically Dio Brando.
he is a Vampire who can stop time. need I say more?
tell me I am wrong.