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10/2 c1 Uta-Napishtim
This story IS great, but I stopped at chapter 11.
You have a real issue with your narrative tense. You switch from past to present without reason or logic.
It messes up the coherence of your otherwise great story. I tried to ignore it but it keeps killing the immersion.
please find a beta reader so your fic can really be as good as it deserves to be.
10/2 c4 La Phyzz
I tried, I realy did but way too much into the entire anti faith and inconsistent character mentality and behavior. sorry but this where i check out
10/2 c31 BLKDroid
Another smashing chapter!
10/1 c31 Percy Jackson7
Hmm the bloodline of the Starks. Hint Olenna
They way older then your line of house lol.
10/1 c31 myafroatemydog
Another good chapter
10/1 c31 Guest
Natasha Teranova

Hephaestus guns/lasers wonderdome shield spaceship rainbow laser guns

sword carve electron off an atom

Purple Healing Ray/Mental Radio

Wonder Woman One Million

Invisible Spacecraft made by Harmony and Charity
Harmony and Charity: Wonder Woman wields a pair of bracers with an AI in them that could create Energy Construct Creation Force Field indestructible force-field objects like shields and swords in addition to providing tactical advice.

Arda Moore





Matrix, Belinda Zee, Supra/Ultra/Ubergirl, Superior Girl, Divine, Nuclear (Wo)Men, Bizarros-stronger, Smarter, faster, tougher, better looking than Supes, Ms. Gsptlsnz, Gzntplzk

Insect Queen Bee Exobytes mecha and bio nanoZerg Heroes of the Storm Cyberghosts Tyranids Kaiju/Kaijin

Astarte/Veronica Cale Theana, Paula/Gerta von Gunther, Dr. Cyber, Dr. Poison, Bruna-Brunhilde, Gudra/Gundra, Deva, Dark Angel, Deathbringer, Grail, Queen of Fables, Questing Queen, Savanna, Power Tower, Purrsia, Crow Children

Scorch Fernus

Queen Desira

Barda, Bekka, Knockout, Maxima

Blithe, Twilight, Majesty, (Herculina)

Theana, Satin Satan Girl

Dawn/She-Ra (Bruna Ambrozia Fay)
Angelus Warriors/Spawn/Symbiod


Wonderdome Swan Fleet/Sunstone/Fortress of Solitude(Kole)/New Themyscira/Thalarion/Mythlands-Cosmopolitan, Multiethnic/Omniethnic/Citizenry of the Empire of the Silver Snake/Zerox/Skartaris/ the Living Dinosaur Island/The Centre/Nth Metal/Mother Box-Element X-Celestial City War World


The Egg Laying Wool Milk Sow Eierlegende-Wollmilchsau

Polity Asher
Banks Culture

Techno Organic Jungle virus Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda


Krork-Maestro/Leader/Professor/Doc Green/Doc Samson/Green Scar/Sakaarson/Nul “Breaker of Worlds” as well as Hobgoblin/Demogoblyn (Jack O Lantern)

Reborn as noble abhumans-Dwarf/Giant
Beast(flora-Jack o Lantern)(chimera/kaiju)/Golem-robot cyborg)folk/ogre/troll Heroes of the Storm

bacteria/plague insect/swarms bird/flocks armies/chimeramen/dragonmen wear cities as crowns crew fleets of spaceships size changing dragons/chimera/kaiju

Orks become Krork- Maestro/Leader/Doc Green/Professor/Green Scar/Sakaarson/Nul “Breaker of Worlds” as well as Hobgoblin/Demogoblin

Eldar become Asurai organic Amazos/ Warhammer Fantasy Elves

Krork-Maestro/Leader/Professor/Doc Green/Doc Samson/Green Scar/Sakaarson/Nul “Breaker of Worlds” as well as Hobgoblin/Demogoblyn, Eldar become Azurai Magno organic Amazos/Brother Grimm Warhammer Fantasy Elves, A/ErakylonCelestial-halfangel-half devil demoness, Fairy/Pixie/NegaSpyte/Genie, Gnome, arch/uber/ultragremlin/demiimp-antifairy, replicae (genetic diversity different races and genders) perfect human (captain America/Nick Fury/Cable) clone, enhance (cybernetic brains) completely under thrall Symbioids Justice Titans-Supermartian/Rann/(Skorp Von Warstar)Adam Strage-John Carter/Flash Gordon, Wonderhawk, Aquaorion, Alakazam-Captain Marvel/Shazam/Zatara-Doc Fate(Wyrd)Mandrake, Bat-Lantern, Zauriel, Superdemon, Squad Superman (Earth 14/33/13)

Yuuzhan Vong biots
Asteroid M(s)-Krakoa mysterium/Arrako/Okkara Amenth- Savageland(s), Danger/Cerebra, Planet X Attilan(Zero-Techno-organic-Technoarchy, Phalanx, Barbuda, Builders Mulitple Man


Antimatter Earth-3 Pocket Dimension Alexander Luthor/Mazahs/Doc Savage/Edison Rex/Axel Brass (Century Babies)/Xanatos (copy Ultimate Archmage familiar Stee/Iron Clan/Thailog shock troops)/Hank Scorpio/Oliver Warbucks-self-made man, never lost the common touch and never forgot where he came from, felt strongly that business owners had a responsibility to treat their employees fairly and had an equally great hatred of corruption

I always imagined nanotech like Spawn or the Darklings, Matrix, Satin Satan Girl, Nightflame, Scorch/Fernus (succubi/nymphs) , Belinda Zee, Supra/Ultra/Ubergirl, Superior Girl, Divine, Nuclear Men, Bizarros-stronger, Smarter, faster, tougher, better looking than Supes, Ms. Gsptlsnz, OMACS, Warsuits Luthor's power armor, Havokoids, Warmaker 1s, Alphina Brainiacs Indigo, enhanced Doomsday clones (Steel/Cyborg Superman/Eradicator, Tactile TK), Doomslayer, Superdoom, World Killers, Paragon, Vartox, Amazo, Tomorrow Woman

Rao's familiars- Flamebird and Nightwing Angelus Warriors: combined Shadowflamewing/Imperium of Mankind Double psyber Eagle egg/sunstone; Rao (god of the sun), Cythonna (goddess of ice) Yuda (goddess of the moon), Telle (god of wisdom), Mordo (god of strength), and Lorra (goddess of beauty)

Familiars- Wolves, Scratch-9-Gyrinx-Sabretooth/Witch familiar/pharaoh-Alley-Kat-Abra (Sleen),Ravens (American Eagle), Monkey, Winged Unicorn, Gryphon, (Black, White, Gray, Rainbow) Phoenix, Phaethon and Savitar, the sun dogs (dragons-insect to cat to Kaiju sized)- born out of Solaris' own nuclear furnace, and heir to his hydrogen-fueled power and fury Octus, the eight-dimensional cephalopod - from the bottom of the seas of neptune. While it is impossible for creatures limited to a three-dimensional perception of the universe to fully understand his powers, his weird limpet grenades have proven to be most effective weapons.

Wormhole - unfathomable denizens of the black gulfs between stars, with the ability to bend space and time to his command

Flashpoint/Epsilon: Magog, Tokyo Rose- Mystic martial arts (Darklings from Darkness (as well as symbiote/Super-Adaptoid/Demogoglin) like giant robots and monsters like Kaiju as well as cyborg demonic ninjas and Samurais/Huntsclan/Snake Eyes, Mirabai, Manotaur, XXX like 666-Judge Dread-Judge Dredd and Death/Mortis, NIL-8, Americommando-Major Glory

Stormwatch/Meritocracy/Protectorate: Mr. Majestic, Midnighter, Century Babies amalgam-Doc Savage, Jenny Quarx-Mystechnician, King of Cities/Wyld, John Lynch/TAO


Manchester Black-Telekinesis telepathy, symbiote/symbeast(s)-(Darkness/Angelus/Witchblade/Spawn), magic club, magic hat from which can pull anything; Manchester Black Americanitis John Smith- shirt with American flag and baseball bat-Shine/Bright Knight-Shade, Angelus etc

Billy Butcher; Good Homelander/Major Glory-The Boys coat etc., Becky Butcher, Greg D. Mallory, Tommy Monaghan- Ace of Winchesters, Jesse Custer-Preacher, Max Damage

Buck “Buffaloman” Storm- modern/future mystic Pecos Bill lasers/Super Chief/Black Bison/Flying Fox/Manitou Raven/Silver Deer/(Winged Bison belt like winged golden ram fleece-Olympian-flocks/herds of buffalotaurs)Forge/Black Condor/Nightwolf/Chief Thunder/Turok/Bravestarr/BlackstarPaladin alternative Batman cowboy Punisher/spliced with Terraman/Deadshot/Jonah Hex/King Faraday/Slam Bradley/Tommy Monaghan/Terry Sloan/Matches Malone/Lefty Knox

Thrax Von Brighthammer- Brighthammer Living Saint/Sage Illuminatus Inquisitor/Rogue Trader

Dirk Torch-Axel Brass (Century Babies/Mystechnician)/Oliver Warbucks/Richard Henry Benson
Dollarmation Starcloak

Bruno Godkiller- Thundragoria, Neo-Primordia-life began on Earth avoid White Martians' ancient experiments so like Kryptonians plus inherit white plasma on par with Starheart/Shazam's magic lightning, Vartox/Amazo/Paragon

Latveria is one of the most advanced nations on Earth, but most of the landscape looks quaint and medieval—because Doctor Doom likes the quaint medieval look.

Wakanda, home of the Black Panther, goes even beyond Latveria in some versions. Someone might stumble on what looks like a harmless and primitive—at best Bronze Age—African village on the edge of the country and mistake it for an easy target only to discover the apparently decorative stone statues are shooting plasma bolts, armed flying drones are being launched from a wooden hut, and the spears those loincloth-wearing warriors are tossing? Rocket-boosted self-guided smart missiles with high explosive armour-piercing warheads. Techno organic jungle

Minor villain/heroic ally Arkon and his city Polemachus would count. Arkon is loincloth-wearing, sword-wielding barbarian who rides giant lizards, but carries thunderbolt-shaped energy spears that can open dimensional portals and be hurled for powerful energy bursts. The city he rules, Polemachus, is something out of a Frank Frazetta/Roger Dean album cover with such weirdtech as mind-controlling machines, but they somehow never develop atomic power (Arkon had to kidnap and brainwash Earth scientists to get the secret of developing nukes. The Schizo Tech elements get furthered as Arkon often goes raiding Earth and other dimensions for the opportunity to steal what technology Polemachus doesn't have, and his people have a highly developed use of sorcery and magic besides their own native science

Marvel Manga-verse, T’Challa is still King of Wakanda and when calling upon the help of the God Qamatha, he can transform into a Were-Panther. His appearance in the Were-Panther form is of a large humanoid panther in ancient Egyptian clothing. He can also call upon Qamathas's power to change himself into the Falcon. In this form, his appearance is heavily influenced by the ancient Egyptian god Horus. In this reality, his magical abilities are prominent as Dr. Strange notices his magical trail.

T'Calla in his Thrice-blessed Armor, wielding the Ebony Blade. T'Challa possess specialized Thrice-blessed Armor and Light Armor for specific Thrice-blesses armor functions the same way as Iron Man's armor, and is also enhanced with Magic abilities.

Red Lion

White Lion (M’Balla): King of the African nation of Dakana, gifted with peak human strength, speed, and agility as well as a brilliant technical mind

daka: Crystals found only in the African nation of Dakana, able to channel various forms of energy. Sometimes erroneously known as “Dakana diamonds.” Dakana: African nation ruled by the White Lion and producer of daka crystals (cf. “Diamonds of Dakana” in Atom

Marvel Manga-verse, T’Challa is still King of Wakanda and when calling upon the help of the God Qamatha, he can transform into a Were-Panther. His appearance in the Were-Panther form is of a large humanoid panther in ancient Egyptian clothing. He can also call upon Qamathas's power to change himself into the Falcon. In this form, his appearance is heavily influenced by the ancient Egyptian god Horus. In this reality, his magical abilities are prominent as Dr. Strange notices his magical trail.

T'Calla in his Thrice-blessed Armor, wielding the Ebony Blade. T'Challa possess specialized Thrice-blessed Armor and Light Armor for specific Thrice-blesses armor functions the same way as Iron Man's armor, and is also enhanced with Magic abilities.


Doc Croc/Afrikaa

Zawavari-witch doctor of Wakanda

Ayesha, Queen: Immortal queen of a hidden valley in Africa and sometime foe of the White Lion.

Black Jackal: Dark costumed assassin and foe of the White Lion with ties to the Egyptian death cult of Anubis (and through them with SHADOW and the Serpent People).

Ghostmane: Shaman foe of the White Lion and would-be usurper of the throne of Dakana.

Leopard King, the: African super-criminal who attempted to conquer central Africa in 1962 with an army of “Leopard-Men” until stopped by the White Lion and UN intervention

Silver Hyena (Dr. M’genda): African doctor and humanitarian bitten by a were-hyena and infected with its curse. The Silver Hyena is a humanoid with black and silver fur and a hyena’s head. It can mimic other voices and its laugh can induce fear, rage, and other emotions.

Jestra, Sphinx

Blackfire, Jinx

Tokyo Rose


Shield; gauntlets made of Utopian uru that are bound to her soul with unbreakable astral chains, allowing to recall them to her; the Chain of Veracity, allowing her to force people to her tell her the truth

Sword; No-Blade, an invisible sword; the Invisible Barbed Wire of Ares; formerly All-Black the Necrosword

Rainbow Ax whose head is a shard of the Bifrost

Queen La


Originally, Diana “dealt with” her enemies by turning them into allies. And then came Countdown to Identity Crisis. And THEN came the new 52

Just because you don’t have a code against killing doesn’t mean it’s your go-to solution

Diana – although prepared to fight, and even to kill if there’s absolutely no other way – will always look for a peaceful resolution before anything else

In Wonder Woman #19, Diana is attacked by an enraged Green Lantern who believes her to be his enemy. She fights back, to defend herself and to give her friend Etta a chance to get away, but once she’s knocked him down, she extends her hand in peace

He rages at her. He throws punch after punch, and she stands there and lets him. And when he’s exhausted himself–

She extends her hand again. And she talks to him, and she listens, and she appeals to his sense of justice and compassion. And in doing so, she gains an ally

This isn’t unique to Gail Simone’s run; it was a key characteristic of Diana throughout post-Crisis Wonder Woman. Back in 1989, in Wonder Woman #33, we have Diana’s shame at the realisation that she’d been fighting Cheetah as much out of a desire for revenge as a need to protect others

Looking on the imprisoned Cheetah, Diana feels pity; she sees a woman maddened by pain and bloodlust, deserving of help as much as punishment. Where Cheetah’s captors would kill her just to shut her up, Diana tries to help

When you need to stop an asteroid, you get Superman. When you need to solve a mystery, you call Batman. But when you need to end a war, you get Wonder Woman
Gail Simone, Wonder Woman: The Circle

We have a saying, my people. 'Don't kill if you can wound, don't wound if you can subdue, don't subdue if you can pacify, and don't raise your hand at all until you've extended it.' - Wonder Woman

Wonder Woman kicks Batman's butt every time they fight because that's what happens when a normal person goes against a super of that caliber with no kryptonite factor, of course they also have similar tactical mindsets or at least fighting skills and with her superior abilities she obviously has the advantage, she will use diplomacy before resulting to violence and even lethal force if absolutely necessary, she is more powerful than Superman and has better gadgets than Batman

Supes has a job and a boss, Bats has a butler and is the boss of one of the world's largest corporations, Supes may have his fortress of alien tech, Bats has even more cool stuff, Supes pines for one woman, Bats has a harem of fetish femmefatales who pine for him
10/1 c30 Guest
Viserys is a mad dog by the time we get around to anything he'll bite someone who will realize what had to be done with him not Ol Yeller's fault he's a monster but there's only one thing to be done about it and that's what it is not being a hero or justice or even vengeance

Tywin is an evil man and a terrible father but he is an excellent ruler

Would Lann the Clever be proud

Were there no shortage of men with black enough hearts seems an excessively large investment to slay two children and a sickly woman

Cersei only loves her children as an extension of herself like Catelyn completely incapable of understanding others love their spouses, children, siblings, and parents as much as she does

justice delayed is not justice denied

rules for rulers starving disconnected illiterate peasants do not make good revolutionaries

Tradition must be challenged lest it become stagnant and self destructive

During her time as Queen Rhaella's lady-in-waiting, Joanna had befriended the Princess of Dorne, another member of the court. The Dornish Princess had two children, Oberyn and Elia Martell, who were not yet promised in marriage, so the two women planned to have their children be wed to each other.
In 273 AC, Joanna died birthing her youngest son, the dwarf Tyrion, while the Martells were on their way to Casterly Rock. Once confronted on the subject, Tywin bluntly refused all the offers (Jaime wed to Elia, Cersei wed to Oberyn, or both), and instead offered newborn Tyrion for Elia, an offer meant to be insulting

Everyone but Robert says Rhaegar was something out of a fairy tale kind and wise an incredible warrior and musician The Durrandons were always the greatest warriors in Westeros and Westeros has this idiotic idea that swords are best weapons the end even the Mad King wouldn't harm his own blood that is just how Westeros thinks

I think Shadow would be better than Shaggydog

Stannis was an old man even as a young boy, possibly autistic he excels at war and law but inept at social interaction maybe childlike in that the law is the law is the law the end

The Targaryeans were least among the forty families of dragonlords

Archon was the title for times of crisis ruler of nation elected by lord freeholders

All free men who owned land had a vote in theory in practice old, rich, and/or powerful sorcerous families and the forty families of dragonlords mightiest among them tended to dominate

They allowed freedom of religion as opiate of the masses one day things will get better but didn't believe in any themselves they may have paid lip service however

The Valyrians made slaves work themselves to death in countless numbers

Iron Throne Sword of Damocles to rule is a duty

Not all prophecies are useless, but none are certain, some are just self-fulfilling, and most are vague nonsense. People remember the prophecies that come true, not the ones that don’t

Tied to belief I always thought it was because so many royal families were founded by sorcerers, wargs, and etc.

Magic always has a price you can't mate with relatives and expect much good to come from it, you can only bend nature (even if to pre-industrial peoples is a ruthless and brutal b word before modern medicine and transportation harmony with nature is a city dweller concept) in ways it wasn't meant to bend before it breaks and rapes you back akin to pollution and global warming maybe radiation it's your descendants future generations who suffer for your crimes, sins, ignorance, arrogance, and/or stupidity

why is no one is asking why is there a war for one man getting cock blocked because no one wants incest and the problems it brings

We don't inherit from our ancestors we rent from our descendants future generations

Freakynomics crime doesn't pay enough

George's artistic license with biology, economics, and linguistics

As a writer, journalism major, and amateur reader of history, Martin knows basically nothing about even basic economic principles. It shows.

Supposedly knowledgeable characters treat Robert and Littlefinger's massive spending as a detriment to a realm, with Ned in particular citing the lack of gold in the royal vaults (as opposed to when Aerys ruled) as evidence of Robert's mismanagement. In real life, loaning and investing money is what a government is supposed to do, and keeping everything locked up is simply wasting it. Robert's investments had a demonstrably great return (Littlefinger increased the crown's incomes ten-fold, King's Landing is more prosperous than ever a mere decade after Tywin brutally sacked it, the Royal Fleet is back to over a hundred war galleys and tens of thousands of men after it got wiped out by a storm a decade earlier and further reduced in the Greyjoy Rebellion, maritime trade is booming to the extent that Stannis can seize hundreds of traders' ships on short notice at the secondary port of Dragonstone), and the debt he accumulated was explicitly not enough that he couldn't easily pay it off (it's stated in the fourth book that payments were still being made on time even in the middle of the brutal continent-wrecking War of the Five Kings), so really, he's the most economically competent king Westeros ever had.

Speaking of loans, a debt of 2 million gold dragonsnetover 15 years to the Iron Bank is treated as a significant burden. Not only does this totally ignore the massive positive effects on the crown's credit of making 15 years of consistent payments, it's also not consistent with previous figures given: Robert could afford to casually give away 100,000 gold dragons as a reward for a jousting tournament, yet a mere twenty times that is supposedly a big deal for a continent to pay off.

The gold dragon in general arbitrarily changes value depending on the chapter. A mercenary fleet under Sallador Saan (29 ships and thousands of men) costs Stannis 30,000 a month to operate, and yet Anguy the archer manages to spend 20,000 in a couple weeks on whores, booze, a nice pair of boots and a good dagger.

Braavos is somehow a significant trade city despite being totally isolated from all known trade routes. Its position on the map roughly parallels that of St. Petersburg, Russia (far in the northeast with the only convenient sea connection being to the North), for a city that's supposed to be in the position of Venice, Italy (which was located at the heart of the Mediterranean and Europe in general).

The Twins are supposed to have made the Freys very wealthy, due to giving them the only overland route to the North, ostensibly a major trade node. Ignoring the North's lack of tradeable goods due to its poverty or the fact that it's a thousand miles through taiga and swamp from the Twins until you reach the nearest city, a miniscule amount of trade in the medieval era took place by land (less than 10%), so control over this point should really offer the Freys very little.

Tywin Lannister is somehow the richest man in Westeros because he owns many gold mines and has produced vast quantities of gold for literally generations, and yet he has more objective wealth than Mace Tyrell, who controls a population three times as large and produces most of the realm's food, in a world where winters can last for years and where storing vast amounts of food for winter is the difference between life and death. The Lannisters also never seem to suffer the logical consequences of churning out limitless amounts of gold for over a thousand years, which would be hyperinflation and a drop in value of said gold (cf. the result of the Spanish stumbling across an effectively infinite supply of silver in the form of the New World).

Slaver's Bay sustains itself by buying slaves, training them, and reselling them. Given that they must pay for at least a decade of the slave's shelter and provisions, this is completely impossible. Particularly for the Unsullied, which are raised from childhood and have an 80% death rate in training.

Dull is the blade of the lazy warrior hesitate to call a warrior at all, a blowhard and a braggart perhaps but a warrior I think not

No fight is ever truly fair the opponent of one or an army will have better arms or armor, training or experience, tactics or strategies, or skill and talent, more comrades, or just luck

I think Ironwood ships Fleet would be cool and Black Harbor (perhaps dragonglass) for Western Coast of North rebuilt fleet

Moat Cailin rebuilt

Snowlands, Rock/Hill Lands

If not afraid than not courage just stupidity

armies of their chimeras dragon/wyvern/wolf/shadowcat/bat/avian/snakescorpionwasp tails/fauna/crusta/floramen and wood(straw/leather scarecrow)/stone(gems)/magma valyrian steel golems(giants/Titans) with swords tridents and shields electoo finger laserguns that would be better workforce and soldiers

bacteria/plague insect/swarms bird/flocks wear cities as crowns size changing dragons crew fleets of spaceships/chimera/kaiju

Beskha and Amaya

Lion of Night Maiden of Light
Garth Greenhand/hair ancestor of Bran the Builder, Godsgrief, and I think others first king (warchief) of the First Men (in Westeros)

Dragon Stone Building material Oily Black Stone Seastone Chair, Hightower, and other places

At worst accessory after the fact the spark (though I put that on Rhaegar) not the inferno that followed and the kindling was the fornicated up society in the first place

For the law binds the mighty.

The law sets free the powerless and defends them from the cruel.

For we are not dumb beasts that know only the way of tooth and claw. Mercy. Justice. Duty. Those things we know.

In the name of Justice. Of Law. Of Civilization…

We Rise.

Not always true. There had been more than a few times that the law was used to bind the weak and empower the ruthless. But this was the ideal, the thing that people aspired to.

We the people…

As above, so below…

And you’re the youngest and weakest?

Equity and equality
10/1 c29 Guest
I think the name Frostflame or Hailfire for Jon Snow a shadowcat Sly and Strong comet or blue winter rose sigil Flourish, Blossom, Bloom; Suffer Not Injustice

Also Shadowflame/Phyr for daughter line of Blackfyre/phyr Sheepdog sigil Prosperity Stability Freedom

I don't believe the North will survive without the South any more than the South will survive without the North

It's generally admitted even after the ousting of the Targaryen regime that the Valyrian monarchs centralized most of Westeros into a single realm, which put an end to endemic warfare between the Seven Kingdoms, for the most part put an end to Ironborn reaving, kept the Faith of the Seven on a leash and also developed trade via the creation of a new city like King's Landing, while earlier rulers also abolished horrible practices like Droit du Seigneur and made laws common across the realm

If Aegon isn't a real Targaryean Young Griff is qualified to rule

Stannis is the only other one who puts the needs of the realm before his own the rest are deluded fools who fight for personal glory and power

His problem is he doesn't understand that almost anyone will believe almost anything, they will believe a lie is the truth because they want it to be true or because they are afraid it might be true

He should stop talking about his rights and start talking about how he is the best man for the job, that he always does his duty unlike the others

Stark forces rape pillage and burn just as much as their Lannister counterparts

Mace Tyrell would strangle a thousand babies to death with his bare hands if it meant putting Tyrell blood on the Iron Throne

The blood of the Riverlands is on Catelyn's hands as much as Gregor Clegane and Tywin Lannister's, her efforts to protect her children only put them in greater danger and all that other death

Balon Greyjoy wants revenge more than gold, he blames the Starks and the North for costing him his crown and his other sons and is too stupid (like most people) to see it was Stannis destroying his fleet that cost him all that

Robb is a great general he wins every battle but loses the war because he completely fails the diplomatic side of things, there is more to being a lord much less a king than winning all your battles he's wise beyond his years in some ways but still young in others to a lesser extent so is Dany Robb is a tactician but not a strategist he has no real plan for winning the war as a whole he seeks no alliances all his forces are his or his grandfather's

And how many innocents will Arya murder for her freedom, (and freedom to what starve or be slaughtered) someone needs to tell her of the realm’s need for stability, and unless she wants to go beyond the Wall and hunt and kill for her daily bread, she must also do her duties as a Lady of her House as the Mormont women do, work is called work not fun for a reason, in short she doesn’t get it both ways, we need the tedious minutia of governance, someone needs to tell her war is hell something like it's about protecting your home and family and living up to noblesse oblige

Discordant note chapter fifteen has a good speech about hard and soft power

Melisandre is trying to ensure the human race survives

I don't think Jaime should be hated for breaking his vows given what Aerys was but because people think he did it to increase his family's position, influence and power remember he was young and stupid and as one of the world's greatest warriors almost never needed to actually use his brain and think like most people so it's somewhat understandable he hasn't overcome these shortcomings until he lost his hand and saw his sister for what she is

Renly like Cersei and Robert would spend so much on clothes and tournaments not what is best for the realm, extrajudicial execution Westeros taboo maybe but what is best for the realm

Gendry has what it takes to be a great warrior BUT

Edric at least has a proper education and we do need the tedious minutia of governance unless like Conan he's naturally cunning

Sansa until she got cold hard taste of reality thought all adults were as honorable as her father, she thought the real world worked like a fairy tale not like the real middle ages

The main conflict in Westeros is between various warring families. The conflict is driven by the desires of the respective heads of households to further the political power and/or political independence of their houses. Family honor is practically an obsession, and the more ambitious lords want to take their families as far as they can (which is the Iron Throne). Everyone is concerned with furthering the ambitions of their families and factions, not what is best for the realm as a whole.

Ironically, however, the two most powerful men in Westeros are the ones that don't have families. Littlefinger has no family to speak of, and Varys, as a eunuch, is physically incapable of having one. So their primary concern instead becomes the realm. Varys's behind-the-scenes machinations are meant to preserve the country, and to put the best possible ruler on the Iron Throne. In a sense, he sees the realm as his family...and he is just as ruthless in the course of protecting and furthering his family as any noble lord is. Littlefinger, on the other hand, has no ties whatsoever. He's solely in it for himself.

George RR Martin said that he originally planned to write a War of the Roses novel but decided against it because everyone knows how it will turn out and that "the princes in the tower" will not escape.

In history, the two young children of King Edward IV, of the House of York, the Bran and Rickon of their generation if you will, were the heirs of the throne. Upon the King's death, Richard III presented a claim to monarchy citing the illegitimacy of the King's marriage to Elizabeth Woodville, since the King had already been secretly married to another before, an action which vindicates his claim. Richard III, then took those children hostage and locked them in the Tower of London, a traditional castle for raising royal children, the Dragonstone if you will. And then the Princes vanished...an action which eroded much support for Richard III, presumed culprit, and placed Henry Tudor as the next best claim to the throne, a Welshman who flew a Dragon Standard on the Battle of Bosworth Field. The mystery of these disappeared Princes is disturbing for many reasons. If Richard III killed those Princes as is generally believed, he brutally violated all norms of decency to claim the throne, showing a ruthless amoral urge for power that completely tramples over all notions of feudal honor and chivalry. If Henry Tudor or his supporters ordered the deaths of the Princes, as some Ricardians believe, than an Usurper maligned and tarnished a worthy and honorable man, framed him for the crime of the deaths of two innocents and rode over their corpses to lay claim on the dynasty that ultimately birthed England's Golden Age. Either way, the implication one gets is that those two children's deaths cleared the path for many men of ambition.

Robert Baratheon became King by conquest, by having a distant claim to the Throne through a Targaryen grandmother, Rhaegar even called him cousin to Jaime in his flashbacks. But as Tywin Lannister points out that the only real way to clear his path to the throne is to kill Prince Rhaegar's children since supporters will always rally around their claim. The result of Tywin brutally killing those children via Gregor Clegane is the lifelong disgust of the Starks and other houses of honour, the enmity of the Martells but also 13 years of a fragile peace. This peace is disturbed because Lord Eddard Stark refuses to kill children or allow them to die. Ned Stark informed Cersei because he knew that Robert in his wrath would kill Joffrey, Tommen and Myrcella, bastards of incest. By refusing to kill those children, Ned Stark fulfills the standards of decency that everyone adheres to but in the end, he gets killed by the very boy-king he wanted to spare. Both in the series, by the likes of Littlefinger, and by readers, people lamented Ned Stark's softness in wanting to "spare" the children. The deaths of children is what certain actions are defined and measured by. Moreover, these actions are framed by the context of society.
Theon Greyjoy presumably killing "Bran and Rickon", two miller's sons, is treated as much lower on the scale than Tywin Lannister killing Rhaenys and Aegon, why? Because Theon Greyjoy Turncloak Ironborn is an idiot while Tywin Lannister is smart, a man who does what he has to do, the lord of the wealthiest part of Westeros and who is careful to frame his actions around an acceptable pill of necessity and pragmatism which Theon fails to do. Tywin Lannister has toadies like Pycelle and Kevan making apologies for his actions, indifferent a$$holes like Robert Baratheon shrugging and accepting the Throne he fought for, while Ned Stark and others sulk in the corner about honor. Ultimately society will arbitrarily support and accept as Necessary Evil the deaths of some children while in other cases, the deaths of Bran and Rickon, even when feigned, is used by Stannis to claim vengeance in North and rally against Roose Bolton and Theon Greyjoy. It's not just what characters are willing to do, but the manner in which their actions are seen and judged by society in the proper context

Relative to the Reach. Hightower is the richest, Redwyne has all the ships, Tarly is the Reach's military powerhouse, Florent has more historical prestige, but nobody's as strong at political maneuvering and raw cunning as House Tyrell. The only reason House Tyrell is in power is because they were smart enough to give up the capital of the Reach to Aegon, after Highgarden's owner just died.

Compared to the other Great Houses of Westeros, the Tyrells have contrasting good relationships with their vassal houses (save from some exceptions) and take actual interest on their domain; for instance, the City Watch of Oldtown belongs to them. Should they have problems, the Tyrells still have a foot firm in Highgarden should there be need to regroup.

they use every trick in the book as pragmatically and hard-nosed as possible, they also haven't neglected the roles good PR and soft power can play in advancing your influence without adding people to the "who wants to kill us" list. For all they are actually playing the game as ruthlessly as others, often enough. Loved, somewhat feared, but mainly respected; and, certainly not hated: that's the route they're aiming for as a group

The Tyrells got away with putting the Baratheons under siege twice with no retribution whatsoever. Even when Stannis takes a great chunk of their bannermen, they still have complete and undisputed control of the Reach other than some dissident houses who aren't even opposing them in battle (like the Florents).

Whereas the Tyrells are physically attractive and pleasant, the Florents are butterfaces with a sense of entitlement and no social skills

Florents not only they are unsociable, they are smug, stupid and pretty ugly.

Not only are they unpleasant people as a whole, they are generally fairly unpleasant-looking, too (all sneers and ears). Subverted by the half-Florents Shireen Baratheon (she is innocence incarnate) and Edric Storm (an energetic little charmer). Even though they still have those ears, neither wear sneers.

Florents consider themselves to have a better claim to Highgarden than the Tyrells as they descend from House Gardener through the male line and not the female line like the Tyrells

They are said to be descended from Florys the Fox, a daughter of Garth Greenhand who had three husbands who did not known of each other and fathered the founders of Houses Florent, Ball, and Peake

they may have a fox as their sigil, but their arrogance and stupidity screw over nearly every single "cunning" plan they make

When Renly and Stannis each declare themselves king, Alester declares for Renly, despite Stannis being the rightful king and Selyse being his wife. This can be chalked up to Alester being loyal to his liege lord, Mace Tyrell, who declared the Reach for Renly, though it is pointed out that Brightwater Keep is too close to Highgarden for the Florents to risk Tyrell displeasure. However when Renly dies Alester breaks his oath to Mace and heads over to Stannis' camp, because if Stannis wins it will mean House Florent gets more political power in the Reach (though Mace hadn't declared for Joffrey yet). Then when Stannis' campaign is failing Alester goes behind his back and selfishly offers Shireen to the crown (as in the Lannisters who are known for their cruelty and child abuse), in exchange for a pardon and Brightwater Keep back in Florent hands. Loyalty is not this man's strongest quality.

Despite his flaws, he is the only Florent encountered so far who is not a R'hllor fanatic or a complete Jerkass. He even treats Davos courteously

Just like Harlen Tyrell surrendered the Reach to Aegon The Conqueror by bending the knee, Mace Tyrell surrendered and bent the knee to Robert Baratheon when the fighting was all but lost. In both occasions, it gave them huge advantage leaps forward, consolidating their power. Dudes are very good at surrendering.

And just like ambitious house from the Reach who married their gorgeous daughter to the King and the patriarch is the second most powerful man on the country? Hello again, Hightowers! Other than that, the Tyrells don't seem to be failing in the War of Five Kings where the Hightowers did during the Dance of the Dragons, which is the fact that they have never overplayed their hand (except with Renly, and they corrected that remarkably fast).

Where the Freys have tried their social climbing the direct and dirty way when not marrying into every power in sight, the Tyrells have gone about it rather differently (if, also including marriage). Both have large families (granted, the Tyrells don't outnumber the Freys: but, they're still not a tiny family), both have Thicker Than Water tendencies. But, only one is succeeding at this whole PR thing and has plans in place for when various linchpins may no longer be in the world.

They seem to have a flexible code of honor and a love of family that's seeing them stick together and manage to stay together while forging ahead in the Decadent Court atmosphere. "Strong" is in their motto. "Stark" also means strong. The Starks remain strong through endurance and will power, the Tyrells through clever alliances. Both are loved by their smallfolk but while the Starks are honorable to a fault, the Tyrells have no true loyalties but to themselves. Both have ancestors who surrendered without a fight to Aegon the Conqueror

Like the Lannisters both are ancient and powerful houses that have been working to exert their influence over the Iron Throne to their own benefit, but whereas the Lannisters are essentially a Big Screwed-Up Family who cooperate through Teeth-Clenched Teamwork at best, the Tyrells work together out of genuine love and affection for one another, treating one another as actual family rather than rivals for power.

Some think they gave their cousins the Gardeners the idea to go fight the dragons

Did it occur to anyone that the Khal is the threat and just have him killed and when the new khal kills Dany and her child well they didn't create the Dothraki culture they can't put that on them or maybe the assassin would fail and if they don't wait until they have proof the Dothraki at least plan to invade they will not have justice on their side and the Dothraki may get over their fear of sea water for revenge

Cersei can scheme and treacher and backstab with all but the very best of them she knows how to GET power but not keep it she has no idea what to do to secure her own future or the actual job of ruling, keeping the masses or bare majority fed and entertained, she has no patience for the balancing the budget stuff and etcetera

Robert didn't thank or reward or even recognize Stannis duty and going above and beyond and his great accomplishments as well and he gave credit to others for Stannis' successes, he blamed the mistakes of others on Stannis but he gave him Dragonstone which is traditional seat of heir and technically made Stannis the third most powerful man in Westeros, to hold those parts of the Crownlands so loyal to the Targaryeans though he probably never said so to Stannis and Stannis probably didn't understand that Robert needed someone as Draconian as Stannis to keep the Targaryean loyalists in line

Baelish doesn't need to embezzle, he's a very successful pimp, not to say he doesn't manipulate the finances of the realm for his own benefit he does but through much more subtle, complicated, and far reaching parts of his schemes
Baelish is trying to create a meritocracy ninety nine percent of Westeros live in squalor

Valyrian steel blades were scarce and costly, yet thousands remained in the world, perhaps two hundred in the Seven Kingdoms alone

Not see greed and malice where there is only stupidity Martells (none of the Starks are politically savvy why would Lyanna be) a well meaning idiot can do more harm than an evil wise man on the other hand Winter is coming we need Jon

Some are too stupid to realize they are stupid and even think they are wise

It takes a certain amount of wisdom to realize others are wiser than yourself

Always thought Baelish led Brandon and everyone to believe she was kidnapped

Proper thieving, killing, and begging require just as much toil as any honest labor

Bullying the weak does not make you strong

A dagger in the dark may be worth a thousand swords at dawn but winning a duel is not winning a battle is not winning a war is not winning peace

They've been cutting up and studying the dead for thousands of years

An organized approach brings the most good for all.
Laws exist to bring prosperity to those under them.
Unjust laws must be overturned or changed in a reasonable and positive fashion.
People rule; laws help.
Cause the most good through the least harm. (and if that's not honor enough for you think about what honor really truly is)
Protect the weak.
Goodness is not a natural state, but must be fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiates from the heart.
Give others your mercy, but keep your wits about you.

Incest more often than not can cause weakness and lack of intelligence but elsewise one's honor, wisdom, kindness and strength has nothing to do with when or whose cock and cunt you slithered out of it's about one's upbringing it's nature and nurture

One need not be inbred to be weak, cruel, and/or a fool

On the battlefield you don't die a bastard or trueborn a commoner a royal or highborn you die because the adversary was stronger or faster or smarter or just luckier

Brandon and Wyla my alternative theory wasn't he an impulsive womanizing idiot

It is unwise to judge others by preconceived notions or what they look like

We're human

We're in this together the world belongs to each and every one of us

It's fine to move to your own drum's beat it's all well and good

But when land is scarce you have to fall in line think of the greater good

Live by the old ways best be prepared to die by them

Trouble is coming sooner or later and when it does there will be no begging for help from those you've scorned and turned your back on

If it's between being part of something larger than myself and scraping by on my own or if someone comes up with something better or circumstances change and it doesn't work anymore I say screw tradition

You have the courage to do that trade the ways/wilderness of your ancestors for a share in civilization or is your fellow man not worth the effort
10/1 c28 Guest
Most of the time a gun will beat a wand

Is Harry The Hero and a genuine savior, or is he a trust-fund orphan (though he spent the first ten years of his life in abusive poverty and didn't understand he was famous in the Wizarding world or how to handle his new found wealth) whose deceased parents give him license to dismiss everyone else's problems as unimportant? Or is he a nice guy but just a poorly executed one? The first time he defeated Voldemort was through no action of his own, and the second time was mostly taking advantage of Voldemort's inability to understand love and he simply followed Dumbledore's plans. Some critics suggest that many of his victories were only based on luck (or Dumbledore's Batman Gambits) as opposed to great skill with magic. Interestingly, Harry himself believes the former, only for Ron and Hermione to insist that these events also showed a bravery and resourcefulness that others don't have.

Many also question if Harry actually is a good friend. Some have argued that Harry is a Hollywood Nerd who is fundamentally a jock, who likes sports and girls, coasts off Hermione for his homework yet refuses to listen to her and even dismisses her when he wishes to For instance, in Deathly Hallows, Harry privately concurs with Xenophilius Lovegood that Hermione is "narrow-minded," and while he agrees later that Hermione was right about the Hallows, he does not apologize to her and moreover has severe Moral Myopia when it comes to class and school discipline (i.e. his insensitivity to Ron, and his plagiarism of the Prince's notebook in Book 6, poor sportsmanship). Such fans also raise eyebrows to Harry/Hermione Shipping Goggles since Harry in the books does not really come across as a very good friend to her (taking Ron's side in Book 3, he got mad at her for reporting the Firebolt anonymously sent to him to McGonagall despite that it was a big red flag (To be fair, Hagrid did call him out for that), and generally getting very morose and depressed whenever he and Ron fight, but taking Hermione for granted and moreover not showing the slightest remorse or consideration about how his use of the Prince Textbook is unfairly giving him an advantage over Hermione's labor in class), while also criticizing him for Gaslighting Ron into the Sidekick Glass Ceiling Like after becoming Captain in Book 6, he doesn't defend Ron despite him more or less winning the Quidditch Cup the previous year, while Harry sat out of the final for his poor sportsmanship and then resorting to a cheap trick to make Ron feel like he won but still remain insecure, while Ron once again served on the winning team of the Quidditch tournament when he got himself suspended again.

Who are even the good guys? Many Death Eaters don't exactly share in Voldemort's fervor to Take Over the World. Some of them were high-ranking figures already, which suggests that they were attracted to the movement's ideology (which happens to be to exterminate everything that's not a pure-blooded wizard). Others suggest, though, that they're Not So Different from the good guys, who themselves want to keep magic a secret from the world at large (to the point where none of them bothered to break The Masquerade during the ten months Voldemort took over their government even though it was a threat would have ended both societies and despite how many muggles were being killed at the point), have a very harsh and sometimes disproportionate justice system, are fine with slavery, and have their own discriminatory viewpoints (Dumbledore is implied to be astonishingly progressive to give Lupin and Hagrid jobs at Hogwarts, and he still has to keep Lupin's lycanthropy a secret). One common fan interpretation is that Wizarding Britain is incredibly backwards, insular, and prejudiced compared to other magical communities.

Gryffindor is the house Harry belongs to, so naturally we see the most of it and it's painted in the best light. It's nominally the house of courage and chivalry, but some fans see it more as a house full of Jerk Jocks, Glory Hounds, and the Popular Is Dumb crowd. Ravenclaw is the house for smart people, but how smart are Ravenclaws really? Some paint them as rather boring, academic, and exclusionary. But when Order of the Phoenix introduced Luna Lovegood, now they also became associated with eccentrics, mystics, and creative types. Is Slytherin a house of Always Chaotic Evil Pureblood fanatics? Word of God says no, they're much more nuanced. However, we don't see much evidence of this in the books, but Harry is a Gryffindor, has a real rivalry with Slytherin, and might just not want to see any redeeming qualities. The most positively portrayed Slytherin, Horace Slughorn, is an Anti-Hero who still has subtle traces of Pureblood Supremacy. Officially, they're the house of ambition, but Ambition Is Evil in the story. Fan writers like to suggest that they're Not Evil, Just Misunderstood – a house that likes being edgy, sticking up for each other, and finding hidden potential. Pureblood fanaticism on that large a scale seems kind of impractical, anyway.

Its founder, Salazar Slytherin, is not painted well in the books – he was known to have built the Chamber of Secrets, which housed the Muggle-killing Basilisk, and he did have a falling out with the other founders over whether or not to accept Muggle-born students. This suggests that he really was a Pureblood supremacist, but one interpretation suggests that since the Burn the Witch! trope was alive and well at the time, he didn't have anything against Muggles per se, but was a pragmatist who didn't want to open the school up to attack by Muggles. Under this interpretation, the Chamber of Secrets was a defense against a possible attack.

Hogwarts appears to be founded in the 990s or so, the Burn the Witch! thing didn't get underway until the mid-1400s. There were isolated incidents in the Founder's time, but not the hundreds of thousands we see during the Early Modern Period. So it might have been the fear that the Muggle-borns would attract unwanted attention, as a pure- or half-blood would have parents who could mitigate the damage?
Hufflepuff is so often portrayed as "the House of All The Rest" that it named a trope. Fans naturally wanted to explore their positive traits, but they differ on what those are. Some suggest it's the House of goal-oriented hard workers, so much so that they'll eschew glory just to get stuff done. Others suggest it's the House of love, friendship, and community. Still others suggest they're just Lawful Stupid.

Much like Salazar Slytherin, Helga Hufflepuff has been reinterpreted in some works as the Only Sane Man. In this view Hufflepuff wasn't "all the rest" because she especially valued community, but because she knew children didn't have a firm grasp of their identity at age 11 and that dividing students up based on personality was a bad idea.

By the way, imagine what an eleven-year-old child would think when the Sorting Hat singing their song at the Sorting Ceremony DIRECTLY making Hufflepuff a "House of All The Rest" - somebody who isn't brave enough for Gryffindor, clever enough for Ravenclaw or pure enough for Slytherin, and making a very hard point that the hat isn't ever mistaken. No wonder why some consider Hufflepuff House as a dumping ground for students that the other founders wouldn't consider "worthy".

With a few exceptions, such as Dobby, the House-Elves find the prospect of not serving human wizards abhorrent. However, is this Happiness in Slavery attitude actually genuine? Are the House-Elves just saying they’re fine with being enslaved because they feel as if they can’t fight the Fantastic Caste System the Wizarding World has enforced on them? Or have they been enslaved by wizards for so long they don’t know what they would do if they weren’t serving wizards? note For this point, consider how Dobby's idea of freedom is "never serving the Malfoys again and being able to choose who he serves while he gets paid for it", not "never serving wizards again". Also, when Dumbledore offered Dobby ten Galleons a week and weekends off (which is the minimum wage in the Wizarding World) when hiring him to work in the Hogwarts kitchens, Dobby was uncomfortable with this because he felt it was too much, so he bargained down to one Galleon a week and a day off per month instead. Or are they just trying to avoid punishment from their human overseers by seeming to be grateful for the slave labor they’re forced to do note and most wizards, who aren't open-minded people just take these claims at face value so they don't have to bother themselves with the implication of having slaves?

At one point, Hermione speculates that the House-Elves are psychologically conditioned to like being enslaved, which is something that has happened to slaves in real life. When you read into it more, you realize that this assumption actually does have a lot of basis in fact; the House-Elves are psychologically conditioned to physically punish themselves severely if they fail a task or disobey their masters. If they're mentally compelled to do that to themselves, what other things are they mentally compelled to do to themselves?

The series also repeatedly demonstrates that the house-elves are fine with working for wizards as long as their masters treat them with kindness. With that in mind, it explains why the Hogwarts house-elves are upset when Hermione tries to trick them into being freed by leaving out hats and socks for them. Serving at Hogwarts under Dumbledore is the best job that a house-elf can get in Wizarding Britain, so being forced to leave would have forced them into an even worse enslavement, something that Hermione clearly doesn't consider at all
10/1 c31 3Fyr RedNight
Great work on this chapter!
10/1 c2 Unknown524
I think you got your timeline wrong. According to the Game of Thrones timeline, Robb and Harry were born around the year 280 AC, and the Greyjoy rebellion started and ended in 289 AC: 9 years. So, Robb, and Harry, should be around 9 years old.
10/1 c31 Xemenon
Nice chapter.
10/1 c31 aishiteru naru
I loved tou story. Please update soon
10/1 c31 Lord Mortensen
Awesome! Great Chapter! Please update it soon!
10/1 c31 3WhiteElfElder
I wonder if that is a White Walker, or something close enough to not make much a difference? Poor Harry is getting so much attention that it is going to be a huge problem when he returns.
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