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1Nai Darkor
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3/10 c10 Tony McNucklz
Well, to be Pre Vizlas bastardization of a mandalorian that's little more than the star wars equivalent of ASOIAFires Ironborn without the saltwives. Bandits and raiders with a good story and better training, but still just bloodthirsty (highly trained) space bandits is all Death Watch ever was. Cowards who didn't dare face the True Mandalorians. Kane is smart to take the offered training and equipment. but if this is canon Vizla, killing him later, taking over Death Watch and reforging it into something the other clans would find tolerable is the way to go. Pre is an egomaniacal space highwayman of the worst kind, which is why he could never gather the support to really overthrow a freaking PACIFIST GOVERNMENT. An opposing leader who could not possibly keep power against even a minor force arrayed against her, which means the only explanation for why Death Watch couldn't take over was they were so repugnant they couldn't gather enough support to even challenge the pacifist Dar'Manda New Mandalorians (FUCK what the show did to Mandalorians), who cannot possibly have been able to militarily contest a true attempt to take over. The only other move is to make sure she doesn't get off world, and handle the PR angle to make the Republic intervening cause problems.
The Republic is so mired in their own shite that even the threat of jedi showing up isn't much of an issue after Galidraan and the scourging of Mandalor if the coup planners have a plan in place to handle PR to make it an internal matter and make any jedi showing up look like bloodthirsty tyrants baying to murder their way into putting an approved puppet on a sovereign planets leadership. after the last three times they've come. The jedi after all installed the Duchess, intervening in an internal matter of Mandalor and effectively installing a Senate approved ruler under threat of the Republic slaughtering anyone who had a problem with the Senate's puppet polishing the throne.
Pre Vizla only ever thought about deposing Satine, not whether the Senate or Jedi could/would step in. He really thought that just taking control would be enough on its own, and even though he didn't have plans for if republic judicial forces or jedi came, he didn't ever manage to have enough strength gathered to depose Satine. My estimation is if we pull from Legends, and factor in that if a single concentrated sector like Mandalorian space had the power to push the Old Republic to the brink without an army of Sith in their ranks, then Mandalorian space must have a LOT of habitable planets/moons very concentrated together, and/or that since planets are certainly not the same size, that Mandalor itself must be a much larger planet than Earth. if the modern republic had 1.2 million units as its army, that's fewer than fought in WW2 on Earth being used for a galactic war with tens, hundreds of thousands of worlds. Not possible unless we assume Unit means a Battalion, or 576 troopers1 Unit, so 1.2 million initial Units691.2 million troopers. So, for the Mandalorian Crusaders to push against the whole of the galaxy, they must have once been able to marshall an army in the same ballpark. ALL from mandalorian space. Now even if Mandalor was once the size of Jupiter compared to Earth (except habitable), that might be feasible, except I'm pretty sure that in mandalorian space mandalor isn't the only settled world. I think it's like Naboo, in that Naboo is the leader of a sector and thus has a senator for the local settled planets, not that Naboo singularly gets its own senator. Same for Mandalorian space. Mandalor is like the capital of a group of planets.
So, if any of this tracks, then even with a decimated Mandalor itself, there must be enou strength that Satine does not in fact control that Pre knows he can't control by just deposing Satine. And he never manages to aquire it, meaning that even though the ruler of Mandalorina space is the DEFINITION of Dar'Manda, and practically redefines the word, Pre Vizla and his murderous space bandits are too repugnant to follow for all these other clans that MUST hate her just as much but allow Satine to rule expecting the Jedi and Senate to murder them all if they try to move on Satine, thus Pre cannot take power because the clans wont follow him, and the clans can't take power because they rightfully think the jedi will come murder them back into compliance if they try. And they won't unite with Vizla not because they think it would be suicide, but instead they don't respect him enough to think the Death Watch is more than bloodthirsty honorless bandits, and bandits wouldn't stand a chance of keeping power even if they were't intolerable.
TLDR, take the training and use Pre for all the resources Kane can aquire, but be ready to dispose of him and forge a Mandalorian movement that is nothing like Death Watch and can be led with pride.
Well, to be Pre Vizlas bastardization of a mandalorian that's little more than the star wars equivalent of ASOIAFires Ironborn without the saltwives. Bandits and raiders with a good story and better training, but still just bloodthirsty (highly trained) space bandits is all Death Watch ever was. Cowards who didn't dare face the True Mandalorians. Kane is smart to take the offered training and equipment. but if this is canon Vizla, killing him later, taking over Death Watch and reforging it into something the other clans would find tolerable is the way to go. Pre is an egomaniacal space highwayman of the worst kind, which is why he could never gather the support to really overthrow a freaking PACIFIST GOVERNMENT. An opposing leader who could not possibly keep power against even a minor force arrayed against her, which means the only explanation for why Death Watch couldn't take over was they were so repugnant they couldn't gather enough support to even challenge the pacifist Dar'Manda New Mandalorians (FUCK what the show did to Mandalorians), who cannot possibly have been able to militarily contest a true attempt to take over. The only other move is to make sure she doesn't get off world, and handle the PR angle to make the Republic intervening cause problems.
The Republic is so mired in their own shite that even the threat of jedi showing up isn't much of an issue after Galidraan and the scourging of Mandalor if the coup planners have a plan in place to handle PR to make it an internal matter and make any jedi showing up look like bloodthirsty tyrants baying to murder their way into putting an approved puppet on a sovereign planets leadership. after the last three times they've come. The jedi after all installed the Duchess, intervening in an internal matter of Mandalor and effectively installing a Senate approved ruler under threat of the Republic slaughtering anyone who had a problem with the Senate's puppet polishing the throne.
Pre Vizla only ever thought about deposing Satine, not whether the Senate or Jedi could/would step in. He really thought that just taking control would be enough on its own, and even though he didn't have plans for if republic judicial forces or jedi came, he didn't ever manage to have enough strength gathered to depose Satine. My estimation is if we pull from Legends, and factor in that if a single concentrated sector like Mandalorian space had the power to push the Old Republic to the brink without an army of Sith in their ranks, then Mandalorian space must have a LOT of habitable planets/moons very concentrated together, and/or that since planets are certainly not the same size, that Mandalor itself must be a much larger planet than Earth. if the modern republic had 1.2 million units as its army, that's fewer than fought in WW2 on Earth being used for a galactic war with tens, hundreds of thousands of worlds. Not possible unless we assume Unit means a Battalion, or 576 troopers1 Unit, so 1.2 million initial Units691.2 million troopers. So, for the Mandalorian Crusaders to push against the whole of the galaxy, they must have once been able to marshall an army in the same ballpark. ALL from mandalorian space. Now even if Mandalor was once the size of Jupiter compared to Earth (except habitable), that might be feasible, except I'm pretty sure that in mandalorian space mandalor isn't the only settled world. I think it's like Naboo, in that Naboo is the leader of a sector and thus has a senator for the local settled planets, not that Naboo singularly gets its own senator. Same for Mandalorian space. Mandalor is like the capital of a group of planets.
So, if any of this tracks, then even with a decimated Mandalor itself, there must be enou strength that Satine does not in fact control that Pre knows he can't control by just deposing Satine. And he never manages to aquire it, meaning that even though the ruler of Mandalorina space is the DEFINITION of Dar'Manda, and practically redefines the word, Pre Vizla and his murderous space bandits are too repugnant to follow for all these other clans that MUST hate her just as much but allow Satine to rule expecting the Jedi and Senate to murder them all if they try to move on Satine, thus Pre cannot take power because the clans wont follow him, and the clans can't take power because they rightfully think the jedi will come murder them back into compliance if they try. And they won't unite with Vizla not because they think it would be suicide, but instead they don't respect him enough to think the Death Watch is more than bloodthirsty honorless bandits, and bandits wouldn't stand a chance of keeping power even if they were't intolerable.
TLDR, take the training and use Pre for all the resources Kane can aquire, but be ready to dispose of him and forge a Mandalorian movement that is nothing like Death Watch and can be led with pride.
3/10 c10 DoodleBopCheese
Can’t wait for the next chapter. I wish you luck with your health situation.
Can’t wait for the next chapter. I wish you luck with your health situation.
3/10 c10 anthonym3
This was a perfect chapter.
It had brutality, imagery, and the descriptive edge to a main character coming into his own.
I am looking forward to the next chapter and thank you for the entertainment.
This was a perfect chapter.
It had brutality, imagery, and the descriptive edge to a main character coming into his own.
I am looking forward to the next chapter and thank you for the entertainment.
3/10 c10 EmaCnDf
Amazing story, but i had to read all the ffc to remember what is this about, are you going to publish more often?
Not gonna lie bro, you started this in 2023 and in 2025 barely 10 chapters its a little of a let down.
Amazing story, but i had to read all the ffc to remember what is this about, are you going to publish more often?
Not gonna lie bro, you started this in 2023 and in 2025 barely 10 chapters its a little of a let down.
3/10 c9 Pjo crossovers
Glad to see Kane get some opportunity for mental help. Even if it’s just a stable/safeish environment.
Glad to see Kane get some opportunity for mental help. Even if it’s just a stable/safeish environment.
3/7 c9 PlsUpdate
PLEEEEEASE BRO I NEED ANOTHER CHAPTER PLS UPDATE PLS PLS PLS PLS
PLEEEEEASE BRO I NEED ANOTHER CHAPTER PLS UPDATE PLS PLS PLS PLS
3/4 c9 DoodleBopCheese
Pls make another chapter
Pls make another chapter
2/9 c7 Robbler
Not sure this would be the result of a force sensitive breaking.
Any other person would fall into depression and guilt, however force users always seem to fall to the dark side when faced with... "situations" they're responsible for.
You know? More like slaughter the entire world in anger instead of whatever that one punch at the end of last chapter was. He is 11 not 9 and is actively training himself. Adding to that his attitude and temper, he should be much more "open" for influence of the dark side, especially after what happened.
I see where your coming from and it's not too far off. But I just don't buy it.
Not sure this would be the result of a force sensitive breaking.
Any other person would fall into depression and guilt, however force users always seem to fall to the dark side when faced with... "situations" they're responsible for.
You know? More like slaughter the entire world in anger instead of whatever that one punch at the end of last chapter was. He is 11 not 9 and is actively training himself. Adding to that his attitude and temper, he should be much more "open" for influence of the dark side, especially after what happened.
I see where your coming from and it's not too far off. But I just don't buy it.
12/11/2024 c9 cameron1812
Outstanding. Love Anakin's gumption paired with Kane's protectivist streak. Quite a pair they make. The reunionwhen it comeswill be epic!
Outstanding. Love Anakin's gumption paired with Kane's protectivist streak. Quite a pair they make. The reunionwhen it comeswill be epic!
12/10/2024 c1 Koldbones
so is the brother going to go mando or such? lain readon i started reading this is because of what was in the description. I'm just curious because the flipping back and forth between anakin and his bro is annoying.
so is the brother going to go mando or such? lain readon i started reading this is because of what was in the description. I'm just curious because the flipping back and forth between anakin and his bro is annoying.
12/10/2024 c9 EmaCnDf
Please stop with writing about anakin, i await a lot of times for this chapter and half of it its anakin having fun -.-
I want to see kane leave.
Please stop with writing about anakin, i await a lot of times for this chapter and half of it its anakin having fun -.-
I want to see kane leave.