for The Fall of Jane4/30/2020 c27 Guest
I love it’s beautiful
I love it’s beautiful
8/21/2014 c27 TheMediterraneanRose1536
This whole story was amazing. A very original and interesting idea, and I really enjoyed your portayal of Jane.
This whole story was amazing. A very original and interesting idea, and I really enjoyed your portayal of Jane.
12/16/2013 c27 
10Katsudonfataledeactivated
OMG! How can you kill him! This chapter is incredibly sad. Firstly there is the goodbye, especially Lucrezier. Both of them have some secrets of their own that each other are not entirely aware of, but in the end, they have formed a strong bond. The Borgia family has died, but Jane will live on and on, possibly able to witness another Borgia family, who will fight everyone as long as they remain on top... It sort of make me as a human feel very small. What I have done will be forgotten when I am dead, and I will just be another person... And everything sort of feel a bit pointless...
And you kill Julio! I wonder why Aro didn't feel suspicious though, because Julio hasn't seen the Borgia family much in his life... He doesn't want justice, he wants someone to die for the crime, so he can keep his best guard and satisfy the law he created at the same time... Oh Jane! I guess not only she lost her love, she lost her chance to die as well... :(
10KatsudonfataledeactivatedOMG! How can you kill him! This chapter is incredibly sad. Firstly there is the goodbye, especially Lucrezier. Both of them have some secrets of their own that each other are not entirely aware of, but in the end, they have formed a strong bond. The Borgia family has died, but Jane will live on and on, possibly able to witness another Borgia family, who will fight everyone as long as they remain on top... It sort of make me as a human feel very small. What I have done will be forgotten when I am dead, and I will just be another person... And everything sort of feel a bit pointless...
And you kill Julio! I wonder why Aro didn't feel suspicious though, because Julio hasn't seen the Borgia family much in his life... He doesn't want justice, he wants someone to die for the crime, so he can keep his best guard and satisfy the law he created at the same time... Oh Jane! I guess not only she lost her love, she lost her chance to die as well... :(
7/13/2013 c26 Katsudonfataledeactivated
I think Cesare's motive for killing Juan is so that he can replace him as the son in armour (though his plan doesn't really work), though he disguised that by thinking killing Juan would rid the family of the poison, which will unite the family and make them stronger. But like what Lucrezier say though, he never does anything for the family. He is, in the end, a selfish person.
I feel sorry for Juan, because everyone expected him to be an alcoholic who gets into troubles, so his death is not treated seriously. I have grown to like him. Lol
When speaking about how the building is forbidden to enter for many people, it also means how few people are really accepted into the Pope's lies and schemes society (sorry for putting this way -.-) like the pope said, there is no cardinals that he can trust.
Ascanio is less complicated than the Borgias family, and your writing shows that. It is actually less effortless for me to read the conversation between Jane and Ascanio. Jane having impulses, ummm... Jane is a vampire with all the time in the world, so she never has to have impulses. Humans are not immortal, and so they have to act quickly, which I think has affected Jane. Jane also think that she is like the Borgias, in terms of being able to deceive and scheme. She is friends with them because they are so alike - intelligent and complicated, but she may not necessarily like them. Like what the quote says, she sees herself when looking at the Borgias, and she does not love that.
I wonder what the pope is thinking about when looking at Jane. Does he think she has a part in it? *gasps* he doesn't completely trust her! And why I don't think what Cesare says about not being able to have a meeting with other people without Jane is not a joke? He almost sounds he is a bit angry with Jane... -.-
I feel sorry for the pope also. Cesare just talked about Juan's death so easily, so that he can get the position he wants, when pope just says earlier that he missed him. This shows that Cesare is the murderer - so he does not feel anything about Juan's death, or that he never likes his brother, or that he is selfish that he forces the pope to confront Juan's death so he can do what he wants.
This business about Cesare wanting to be in armour has always been more personal than other Borgias business, and with Juan's death, it is even more personal. No wonder Jane feels awkward for being there.
Cesare has expressed his last ultimatum - he is literally threatening the pope that if he doesn't give him what he wants, he will work against him, and the pope will lose the son... This is kind of mean... -.- I think Cesare also uses uniting the family as an excuse subconsciously so he does not feel guilty about Juan's death...
It would look like the pope is going into shock, but I woder why. Amadeo is a 'maybe vampire', but he can very well blend into the crowd, so the pope may not have noticed something is wrong unless he is feeding. Also, Jane is a vampire and the pope knows, so why is he afraid? The pope probably sees a lot of dead people, so he can't be scared of that also. And how did Amadeo get killed? I really hope the next chapter will clear this up, I am so confused...
I didn't know that the pope will die until the last sentence, and instead of saying 'he is dead' you expressed this information in another way, which is more dramatic, and the reader does not expect that so nice work! :P
I think Jane does not change him, primarily because she doesn't want to make the pope become a vampire. She herself hate being one. Of course, it is possible that she can't change him either. He is the pope, and everone's attention is on him, so he can expose the vampires easily. Whether changing the pope or not is a decision that has to be quickly made, so before Jane thinks about if changing him would be kind, or if it will be practical, she thinks about if she wants to change him. She didn't want to, in the end. Probably because he has never been very very dear to him. She can't love him, remember? She sees herself in the pope, after all.
I think Cesare's motive for killing Juan is so that he can replace him as the son in armour (though his plan doesn't really work), though he disguised that by thinking killing Juan would rid the family of the poison, which will unite the family and make them stronger. But like what Lucrezier say though, he never does anything for the family. He is, in the end, a selfish person.
I feel sorry for Juan, because everyone expected him to be an alcoholic who gets into troubles, so his death is not treated seriously. I have grown to like him. Lol
When speaking about how the building is forbidden to enter for many people, it also means how few people are really accepted into the Pope's lies and schemes society (sorry for putting this way -.-) like the pope said, there is no cardinals that he can trust.
Ascanio is less complicated than the Borgias family, and your writing shows that. It is actually less effortless for me to read the conversation between Jane and Ascanio. Jane having impulses, ummm... Jane is a vampire with all the time in the world, so she never has to have impulses. Humans are not immortal, and so they have to act quickly, which I think has affected Jane. Jane also think that she is like the Borgias, in terms of being able to deceive and scheme. She is friends with them because they are so alike - intelligent and complicated, but she may not necessarily like them. Like what the quote says, she sees herself when looking at the Borgias, and she does not love that.
I wonder what the pope is thinking about when looking at Jane. Does he think she has a part in it? *gasps* he doesn't completely trust her! And why I don't think what Cesare says about not being able to have a meeting with other people without Jane is not a joke? He almost sounds he is a bit angry with Jane... -.-
I feel sorry for the pope also. Cesare just talked about Juan's death so easily, so that he can get the position he wants, when pope just says earlier that he missed him. This shows that Cesare is the murderer - so he does not feel anything about Juan's death, or that he never likes his brother, or that he is selfish that he forces the pope to confront Juan's death so he can do what he wants.
This business about Cesare wanting to be in armour has always been more personal than other Borgias business, and with Juan's death, it is even more personal. No wonder Jane feels awkward for being there.
Cesare has expressed his last ultimatum - he is literally threatening the pope that if he doesn't give him what he wants, he will work against him, and the pope will lose the son... This is kind of mean... -.- I think Cesare also uses uniting the family as an excuse subconsciously so he does not feel guilty about Juan's death...
It would look like the pope is going into shock, but I woder why. Amadeo is a 'maybe vampire', but he can very well blend into the crowd, so the pope may not have noticed something is wrong unless he is feeding. Also, Jane is a vampire and the pope knows, so why is he afraid? The pope probably sees a lot of dead people, so he can't be scared of that also. And how did Amadeo get killed? I really hope the next chapter will clear this up, I am so confused...
I didn't know that the pope will die until the last sentence, and instead of saying 'he is dead' you expressed this information in another way, which is more dramatic, and the reader does not expect that so nice work! :P
I think Jane does not change him, primarily because she doesn't want to make the pope become a vampire. She herself hate being one. Of course, it is possible that she can't change him either. He is the pope, and everone's attention is on him, so he can expose the vampires easily. Whether changing the pope or not is a decision that has to be quickly made, so before Jane thinks about if changing him would be kind, or if it will be practical, she thinks about if she wants to change him. She didn't want to, in the end. Probably because he has never been very very dear to him. She can't love him, remember? She sees herself in the pope, after all.
7/11/2013 c26 Jazzy
I am sorry that I have not been around for a while. It was quite a thrill to be reading your writing again. Keep on writing! You are amazing. This chapter was very suspenseful.
P.S. I hope you still remember me.
I am sorry that I have not been around for a while. It was quite a thrill to be reading your writing again. Keep on writing! You are amazing. This chapter was very suspenseful.
P.S. I hope you still remember me.
7/3/2013 c26 Guest
...the pope is dead. :/
I have no words. Actually I do. Is this the work of szafora and i see Lucreiza called Jane Jane. This is most likely a typo. If so I just had to say. Anyway nice chap
...the pope is dead. :/
I have no words. Actually I do. Is this the work of szafora and i see Lucreiza called Jane Jane. This is most likely a typo. If so I just had to say. Anyway nice chap
7/1/2013 c25 Katsudonfataledeactivated
Aww Jane! It is sad how she finally understands that her journey with the Borgias should end sooner or later. Not only because they continue to age while she stays the same, but also because how she has to watch other's lives go on, yet her life has already ended and she is always stuck at the same moment in her life... Jane appears quite distant from the Borgias also,especially when Pope yells at her to leave, and this is probably because of that. She has witnessed their lies and schemes, so it is time for her to leave, because she feels wrong being part of the evil. Isn't this why she doesn't want to listen to the convict preaching? She feels bad. Things have changed so much, from when she happily helped the Pope in the Rise of Jane to now she is contemplating about living. :/
The reactions of the Pope's children reminds me of a TV show I watched. The family was prosperous, strong and appeared to be harmonious. One by one, his children began to desert him, which led to a real downfall of the family. Lucrezier especially remarked how her family is only about lies and schemes. And Cesare and Lucrezier has forgotten their sibling bonds and finally confessed their love, and how they want to run away and Cesare used to work so hard to gain the pope's trust. Juan has given up fighting his addiction and doesn't care about being annoying to his family anymore. They have all deserted their family.
The love confession is cute. Somehow, the chemistry between Lucrezier and Cesare is so much stronger than that between Lucrezier and her past lovers. It is very easy for me to forget that they are siblings. Incest should be wrong, but you have written that scene really nicely, that it doesn't seem wrong in anyway.
How Cesare harmed his brother Juan is sad, but what is sadder is how it is almost a release for Juan from all his addictions. I feel relieved when I read of his death, at least everything is finally over for him. I wonder if Juan knows that something is wrong between Lucrezier and Cesare, which explains why he was killed.
The scene of arresting the preacher is nicely done. It seems like the preacher represents the whole population, because everyone can hear his voice in the church, but Cesare's sound, representing the lavishing way of living and the complicated schemes of the Borgias sound weak. This shows the difference between what the Pope wants, and what the real Catholics want. Cesare wearing the red Cardinal robe also makes me think of all the blood he has Groton his hand, because of him being a cardinal of working for pope.
I can see that this is coming to an end now, can't believe that Jane's journey with the Borgias is ending!
Aww Jane! It is sad how she finally understands that her journey with the Borgias should end sooner or later. Not only because they continue to age while she stays the same, but also because how she has to watch other's lives go on, yet her life has already ended and she is always stuck at the same moment in her life... Jane appears quite distant from the Borgias also,especially when Pope yells at her to leave, and this is probably because of that. She has witnessed their lies and schemes, so it is time for her to leave, because she feels wrong being part of the evil. Isn't this why she doesn't want to listen to the convict preaching? She feels bad. Things have changed so much, from when she happily helped the Pope in the Rise of Jane to now she is contemplating about living. :/
The reactions of the Pope's children reminds me of a TV show I watched. The family was prosperous, strong and appeared to be harmonious. One by one, his children began to desert him, which led to a real downfall of the family. Lucrezier especially remarked how her family is only about lies and schemes. And Cesare and Lucrezier has forgotten their sibling bonds and finally confessed their love, and how they want to run away and Cesare used to work so hard to gain the pope's trust. Juan has given up fighting his addiction and doesn't care about being annoying to his family anymore. They have all deserted their family.
The love confession is cute. Somehow, the chemistry between Lucrezier and Cesare is so much stronger than that between Lucrezier and her past lovers. It is very easy for me to forget that they are siblings. Incest should be wrong, but you have written that scene really nicely, that it doesn't seem wrong in anyway.
How Cesare harmed his brother Juan is sad, but what is sadder is how it is almost a release for Juan from all his addictions. I feel relieved when I read of his death, at least everything is finally over for him. I wonder if Juan knows that something is wrong between Lucrezier and Cesare, which explains why he was killed.
The scene of arresting the preacher is nicely done. It seems like the preacher represents the whole population, because everyone can hear his voice in the church, but Cesare's sound, representing the lavishing way of living and the complicated schemes of the Borgias sound weak. This shows the difference between what the Pope wants, and what the real Catholics want. Cesare wearing the red Cardinal robe also makes me think of all the blood he has Groton his hand, because of him being a cardinal of working for pope.
I can see that this is coming to an end now, can't believe that Jane's journey with the Borgias is ending!
6/27/2013 c25 Guest
Aww she area about him. Their relationship was intriguing. I am very disturbed by cesares easy killing of his brother. It is sad. Cesare too must die one day, as Jane has said. I just wonder when
Aww she area about him. Their relationship was intriguing. I am very disturbed by cesares easy killing of his brother. It is sad. Cesare too must die one day, as Jane has said. I just wonder when
6/25/2013 c24 Guest
At least she loves someone that's not her brother. How will cesare feel about this?
At least she loves someone that's not her brother. How will cesare feel about this?
6/6/2013 c22 Katsudonfataledeactivated
I wonder, has Jane ever told Julio that she loves him? Julio said it out loud this chapter, which makes me wonder. Jane is less affected by her departure from Julio also, and she is much more rational. I think maybe she doesn't love him as much, or she doesn't really understand how love works? I think that Jane is not that alert of Julio's prescience, but when he is gone, she can feel the loss? Jane's love for Julio is interesting.
Jane definitely love Giulia, because she is sad when she knows that Giulia has been officially abandoned by the pope. The whole Vanozza telling Giulia that the pope will leave her reminds me of the Other Boleyn girl... The women knew that the king will soon favour another woman, and besides their hatred for each other, they do strangely care for each other as sisters and sympathise them... Giulia is stronger and more fierce as she negotiates with the pope, which reminds me of Anne Boleyn who doesn't allow Henry the VIII to leave her... I wonder if she ever loves pope. She seems quite calm for someone whose love is leaving her. Maybe she has been expecting that, or maybe she can only survive on her 'detachement'? Or maybe the love the pope has for her symbolises her beauty, which she prides on so much, but now he is leaving her for other younger woman?
What Giulia said about harvesting can be related to Jane also. She has been with the pope for a long time now, there is no future for her, she will have to leave someday before others realise that something is wrong. This sort of foreshadows Jane leaving for Volturi?
Jane is instinctively defensive when talking with Ascanio. Maybe she is in denial of the fact that the pope can betray her, when he holds her deepest secret, or that he is her only friend she cares a lot about. I find that it is very interesting. Jane's reaction proves that she has formed attachments with the Borgia family. I think I can sort of feel Jane's wariness also, about pope betraying her... I wonder is this what lead to Jane's downfall?
Jane could have refused the meal. Machiavalli gave her a choice, yet she said yes. I think this is a very obvious hint that she has adapted to her human life too much. If I am not mistaken, it will cause great discomfort and inconvenience for her to throw up what she has eaten. She has got too used to this life.
I wonder, has Jane ever told Julio that she loves him? Julio said it out loud this chapter, which makes me wonder. Jane is less affected by her departure from Julio also, and she is much more rational. I think maybe she doesn't love him as much, or she doesn't really understand how love works? I think that Jane is not that alert of Julio's prescience, but when he is gone, she can feel the loss? Jane's love for Julio is interesting.
Jane definitely love Giulia, because she is sad when she knows that Giulia has been officially abandoned by the pope. The whole Vanozza telling Giulia that the pope will leave her reminds me of the Other Boleyn girl... The women knew that the king will soon favour another woman, and besides their hatred for each other, they do strangely care for each other as sisters and sympathise them... Giulia is stronger and more fierce as she negotiates with the pope, which reminds me of Anne Boleyn who doesn't allow Henry the VIII to leave her... I wonder if she ever loves pope. She seems quite calm for someone whose love is leaving her. Maybe she has been expecting that, or maybe she can only survive on her 'detachement'? Or maybe the love the pope has for her symbolises her beauty, which she prides on so much, but now he is leaving her for other younger woman?
What Giulia said about harvesting can be related to Jane also. She has been with the pope for a long time now, there is no future for her, she will have to leave someday before others realise that something is wrong. This sort of foreshadows Jane leaving for Volturi?
Jane is instinctively defensive when talking with Ascanio. Maybe she is in denial of the fact that the pope can betray her, when he holds her deepest secret, or that he is her only friend she cares a lot about. I find that it is very interesting. Jane's reaction proves that she has formed attachments with the Borgia family. I think I can sort of feel Jane's wariness also, about pope betraying her... I wonder is this what lead to Jane's downfall?
Jane could have refused the meal. Machiavalli gave her a choice, yet she said yes. I think this is a very obvious hint that she has adapted to her human life too much. If I am not mistaken, it will cause great discomfort and inconvenience for her to throw up what she has eaten. She has got too used to this life.
5/13/2013 c21 Guest
This is by far the best fic around ( both the rise and the fall of jane) I love how detailed this story is and how believable it is. I am amazed nobody else knows about Jane you would have thought the pope would've exposed her
This is by far the best fic around ( both the rise and the fall of jane) I love how detailed this story is and how believable it is. I am amazed nobody else knows about Jane you would have thought the pope would've exposed her
5/3/2013 c21 Katsudonfataledeactivated
This is such a long chapter! :D I am sorry I didn't review earlier, I just needed a break because I was busy and tired and stuff... Anyway, I love this chapter. The Julio and Jane bit seems somehow like a reconciliation and it is sweet... And the evil Giulia... :)
I like how you seems to have put Jane and the Borgia family in the same group, the group that has dark secrets that can't be told to anyone else... It is odd, because they are different species, but it seems right somehow...
When Jane realises her mistake, her mistake can both mean her asking Julio if he likes wine, and her mistake for being relaxed around Julio... Your writing is really good, because they have hidden meanings that people have to read deeper to discover, which is actually the nature of the Borgia family.
The cause for Jane's power broke my heart... It is very original (I have finally come to the conclusion that you enjoy adding a little bit of uniqueness to every story... Like the causes for Jane's power, or the whole Lillithians and illuminators war...), but it is so sad... :/ I find it cute how Julio seems to feel sorry for her... This chapter is where I feel his love towards Jane most... He has matured, I guess, to be ale to understand Jane's pain, instead of always being happy with her.
I must say, the sexual tension between Jane and Juliois very evident... At first everything is so sweet, but then it changes... I guess this proves how much they love each other. The moment is short, but I can feel their emotions very well... :)
I find that the pope seems to trust Jane more day by day... He asks her to arrest savonarola and wants her to comfort Juan... Also, he defends Jane, and actually calls her a son rather than a woman... I guess this just shows how strong and capable Jane is, to be regarded as a man is to differentiate her from Lucrezier and Giulia, who are not as active in political affairs...
Juan again makes me sad... When he says how he is just a peasant, it is different when he fought with the pope for going to arrest the pope... Maybe he knows his own place, which is why he fights so much... He only wants recognition... :(
I can feel the awkwardness between Juan and Jane as they talk... It is subtle, but I can feel it... :) you are quite good at communicating feelings and atmosphere. :)
I find opium to be like Janes power... It relieves the pain, but it is harmful in the long term... Jane's power destroys her, because she is causing people she love pain, and every time she uses it, she is separating the pain away from her. And escaping from it will never do her good...
Giulia is getting evil now, and I like that lol... She sounds both beautiful and cunning, but it is different from Lucrezier... Lucrezier has certain kind of he steals my candy so I am angry kind of childishness about her, while Giulia's is more sophisticated... I find Giulia in the shadow to be very significant... It symbolises how she is plotting in the dark...
Can't wait for the next chapter! :D
This is such a long chapter! :D I am sorry I didn't review earlier, I just needed a break because I was busy and tired and stuff... Anyway, I love this chapter. The Julio and Jane bit seems somehow like a reconciliation and it is sweet... And the evil Giulia... :)
I like how you seems to have put Jane and the Borgia family in the same group, the group that has dark secrets that can't be told to anyone else... It is odd, because they are different species, but it seems right somehow...
When Jane realises her mistake, her mistake can both mean her asking Julio if he likes wine, and her mistake for being relaxed around Julio... Your writing is really good, because they have hidden meanings that people have to read deeper to discover, which is actually the nature of the Borgia family.
The cause for Jane's power broke my heart... It is very original (I have finally come to the conclusion that you enjoy adding a little bit of uniqueness to every story... Like the causes for Jane's power, or the whole Lillithians and illuminators war...), but it is so sad... :/ I find it cute how Julio seems to feel sorry for her... This chapter is where I feel his love towards Jane most... He has matured, I guess, to be ale to understand Jane's pain, instead of always being happy with her.
I must say, the sexual tension between Jane and Juliois very evident... At first everything is so sweet, but then it changes... I guess this proves how much they love each other. The moment is short, but I can feel their emotions very well... :)
I find that the pope seems to trust Jane more day by day... He asks her to arrest savonarola and wants her to comfort Juan... Also, he defends Jane, and actually calls her a son rather than a woman... I guess this just shows how strong and capable Jane is, to be regarded as a man is to differentiate her from Lucrezier and Giulia, who are not as active in political affairs...
Juan again makes me sad... When he says how he is just a peasant, it is different when he fought with the pope for going to arrest the pope... Maybe he knows his own place, which is why he fights so much... He only wants recognition... :(
I can feel the awkwardness between Juan and Jane as they talk... It is subtle, but I can feel it... :) you are quite good at communicating feelings and atmosphere. :)
I find opium to be like Janes power... It relieves the pain, but it is harmful in the long term... Jane's power destroys her, because she is causing people she love pain, and every time she uses it, she is separating the pain away from her. And escaping from it will never do her good...
Giulia is getting evil now, and I like that lol... She sounds both beautiful and cunning, but it is different from Lucrezier... Lucrezier has certain kind of he steals my candy so I am angry kind of childishness about her, while Giulia's is more sophisticated... I find Giulia in the shadow to be very significant... It symbolises how she is plotting in the dark...
Can't wait for the next chapter! :D
4/1/2013 c20 Katsudonfataledeactivated
OK, ready for the long review? Here we go. :)
Giulia and Vanozza is very different. Vannozza is a more domesticated woman, as she has had two children already, and ‘reliveing’ Lu of her new born child to me shows that she likes to display her affection in a more practical way. ALso, she prides herself on being a successful mother ("You managed to create a close family, one with much love and care." Jane smiled at her. Vanozza smiled proudly. "We did.) Sancha is like a mother to Juan also, but she is more like a mom that spoils her child (Juan) and who is kinder and would be less strict than Vanozza (not that Vanozza is strict though...) Giuia on the other hand is pope’s lover, so it makes sense that she is much more passionate and displays her love with hugs and stuff... They are both lovers of pope, and the older women, but they are different. :)
And Lu saying how her hair will be ruined in very cute! I always imagine that this is what a teenage girl would say. :P This is her innocent side right? :P She is also described to be ‘much much younger’. It is nice to see that Lu is so young and happy, at least in that scene, this is what she should be after all, before she was torn apart by her marriage and stuff... :)
When Lu says how Ceasare is only going to take back what has been taken from them, I would how he would carry out his revenge... I think that he will be killed, but then again, I can be wrong. Lu’s ‘amused’ tone sounds like she is a bit saddistic... Almost like the canon Jane, tiny but lethal. *shudders*
Cesare ‘machanical’ nod... *thinks* He is like a robot, that is fueled by his hatred and love for Lu... You know, this reminds me of Corruption on wattpad, the story about Adelina and the Stasi? :P
‘You are a good liar, Giovanna, which is why you are still at the court of the Pope.’ This is my favorite line of this chapter! How true it is! Vanozza is so smart to be able to point it out in such a straight forward sentence. :)
When Jane says how her family has been created with ‘love and care’, it is repetitive. As though Jane is just repeating because the statement is... a bit wrong. There is too much love and care, and if Juan is included, then the love and care is not extended to him from his siblings... Jane doesn’t sound fake or sacrastic in any way though, so I probably misinterpreted it. :)
The fact that Vanozza can confess to Jane about how they are infected with the power and the greed that comes to me shows that she is not an active participant when it involves things that are crime or morally wrong. Actually, I don’t always see her in this story...
Jane sounds like as though she is alienated again in the next chapter... OMG I am always picking on such small details. :\ ‘Jane faintly heard the voice of Lucrezia, asking if she could invite Sancha and Gioffre over.’ It is as though she is hearing Lucrezier while herself is excluded, and ‘their happiness’ sort of make Jane sounds like an outcast. The fact that she decides to go back to her room alsoshows that.
Lu sounds like as if she has several faces. The innocent face, the wary face when she asks Jane what is troubling her, the happy face when she smiles brightly and asks Jane to celebrate her return, and the murderous face when she talks about how she has been hurt and the broken face... Wow... She always changes. I love her character!:D
‘Of course, she had no say in the matter, not really.’ This is very sad, Lu has to actually name her dear son after someone that hurts her and it is unfair... I just have to point that out. _
It is slightly sad that Juan is an outcast... Even Jane, someone outside the Borgia family seems to alienate Juan also, she almost doesn’t consider him as Lu’s brother. Even Lu is not polite to him, maybe becuase of his usual behaviour, or that he is a rival of Cesare... She doesn’t even ask Juan to follow her. It makes me feel more sorry for Juan because he is not drunk. For once, he has improved himself but his family does not accept him. He doesn’t sound happy either...
The nondescript binding of the book symbolises Perotto and Lucrezier’s love, it is secretive. ‘She smiled secretively, a smile that infected Jane even if something about the way Lucrezia clutched the book awakened sadness.’ :( This is probably the most depressing but sweet line in this whole chapter! _
"He had never learned to read, so I had to teach him. I think that was why he did not know, loving can never turn out the way we dream."
The meaning of the line can be that Perotto does not read a lot to know that love doesnt always have a happy ending, which is its literal meaning. But I interpret it as hinting that Perotto is not very educated - he is not part of the Borgia family, so he doesn’t know about the dark secrets that may tear love apart. I can probably interpret it in the wrong way though? *shrugs*
I read further, and I was like “oh!’ when I find that what I said can be applied to Jane also. "Cesare rides to Milan," Jane commented, trying to change the subject as much for Lucrezia's sake as her own.’ They both cannot be with their lovers for some reasons, which is why they can form a strong and understanding bond.
"He promised to cut his heart out with a dinner knife," Jane (is it Jane or Lucrezier saying this line?) cut in, her voice full of passion and anger. "And serve it to me." This is the murderous Lu I was talking about, this is probably the most violent thing said in this story, especially by Lu.
I am so excited when Alec is here! *insert happy face* Only he can make Jane truly smile again, and who can bear her burden of keeping vampires a secret. By he is so oblivious! To Jane’s changes (he thinks that she is the same when she changes so much) and what is going on between Julio and Jane. *sighs* But this makes him even cuter, for some weird reaon :D And Julio will talk with Jane in the next chapter! OMG I cannot wait! :D Love this chapter... :)
OK, ready for the long review? Here we go. :)
Giulia and Vanozza is very different. Vannozza is a more domesticated woman, as she has had two children already, and ‘reliveing’ Lu of her new born child to me shows that she likes to display her affection in a more practical way. ALso, she prides herself on being a successful mother ("You managed to create a close family, one with much love and care." Jane smiled at her. Vanozza smiled proudly. "We did.) Sancha is like a mother to Juan also, but she is more like a mom that spoils her child (Juan) and who is kinder and would be less strict than Vanozza (not that Vanozza is strict though...) Giuia on the other hand is pope’s lover, so it makes sense that she is much more passionate and displays her love with hugs and stuff... They are both lovers of pope, and the older women, but they are different. :)
And Lu saying how her hair will be ruined in very cute! I always imagine that this is what a teenage girl would say. :P This is her innocent side right? :P She is also described to be ‘much much younger’. It is nice to see that Lu is so young and happy, at least in that scene, this is what she should be after all, before she was torn apart by her marriage and stuff... :)
When Lu says how Ceasare is only going to take back what has been taken from them, I would how he would carry out his revenge... I think that he will be killed, but then again, I can be wrong. Lu’s ‘amused’ tone sounds like she is a bit saddistic... Almost like the canon Jane, tiny but lethal. *shudders*
Cesare ‘machanical’ nod... *thinks* He is like a robot, that is fueled by his hatred and love for Lu... You know, this reminds me of Corruption on wattpad, the story about Adelina and the Stasi? :P
‘You are a good liar, Giovanna, which is why you are still at the court of the Pope.’ This is my favorite line of this chapter! How true it is! Vanozza is so smart to be able to point it out in such a straight forward sentence. :)
When Jane says how her family has been created with ‘love and care’, it is repetitive. As though Jane is just repeating because the statement is... a bit wrong. There is too much love and care, and if Juan is included, then the love and care is not extended to him from his siblings... Jane doesn’t sound fake or sacrastic in any way though, so I probably misinterpreted it. :)
The fact that Vanozza can confess to Jane about how they are infected with the power and the greed that comes to me shows that she is not an active participant when it involves things that are crime or morally wrong. Actually, I don’t always see her in this story...
Jane sounds like as though she is alienated again in the next chapter... OMG I am always picking on such small details. :\ ‘Jane faintly heard the voice of Lucrezia, asking if she could invite Sancha and Gioffre over.’ It is as though she is hearing Lucrezier while herself is excluded, and ‘their happiness’ sort of make Jane sounds like an outcast. The fact that she decides to go back to her room alsoshows that.
Lu sounds like as if she has several faces. The innocent face, the wary face when she asks Jane what is troubling her, the happy face when she smiles brightly and asks Jane to celebrate her return, and the murderous face when she talks about how she has been hurt and the broken face... Wow... She always changes. I love her character!:D
‘Of course, she had no say in the matter, not really.’ This is very sad, Lu has to actually name her dear son after someone that hurts her and it is unfair... I just have to point that out. _
It is slightly sad that Juan is an outcast... Even Jane, someone outside the Borgia family seems to alienate Juan also, she almost doesn’t consider him as Lu’s brother. Even Lu is not polite to him, maybe becuase of his usual behaviour, or that he is a rival of Cesare... She doesn’t even ask Juan to follow her. It makes me feel more sorry for Juan because he is not drunk. For once, he has improved himself but his family does not accept him. He doesn’t sound happy either...
The nondescript binding of the book symbolises Perotto and Lucrezier’s love, it is secretive. ‘She smiled secretively, a smile that infected Jane even if something about the way Lucrezia clutched the book awakened sadness.’ :( This is probably the most depressing but sweet line in this whole chapter! _
"He had never learned to read, so I had to teach him. I think that was why he did not know, loving can never turn out the way we dream."
The meaning of the line can be that Perotto does not read a lot to know that love doesnt always have a happy ending, which is its literal meaning. But I interpret it as hinting that Perotto is not very educated - he is not part of the Borgia family, so he doesn’t know about the dark secrets that may tear love apart. I can probably interpret it in the wrong way though? *shrugs*
I read further, and I was like “oh!’ when I find that what I said can be applied to Jane also. "Cesare rides to Milan," Jane commented, trying to change the subject as much for Lucrezia's sake as her own.’ They both cannot be with their lovers for some reasons, which is why they can form a strong and understanding bond.
"He promised to cut his heart out with a dinner knife," Jane (is it Jane or Lucrezier saying this line?) cut in, her voice full of passion and anger. "And serve it to me." This is the murderous Lu I was talking about, this is probably the most violent thing said in this story, especially by Lu.
I am so excited when Alec is here! *insert happy face* Only he can make Jane truly smile again, and who can bear her burden of keeping vampires a secret. By he is so oblivious! To Jane’s changes (he thinks that she is the same when she changes so much) and what is going on between Julio and Jane. *sighs* But this makes him even cuter, for some weird reaon :D And Julio will talk with Jane in the next chapter! OMG I cannot wait! :D Love this chapter... :)
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When I compare Lucrezier and Giulia. Giulia now seems more like the innocent one to me. She is still complicated (she is a Borgia woman after all), but she hasn't ben through as much as lucrezier. She hasn't got a divorce (or got married for that matter), nor a child. lucrezier and Jane can understand each other on so many levels, but Giulia doesn't. She seems even more like a child than Lucrezier, which is quite interesting.
The meeting between the Pope and Cesare is very intense: I can definitely feel their frustration and annoyance with each other underneath. Even when you don't outright say their feelings. I guess Cesare does not like Juan also, he literally is the reason Cesare cannot do what he likes best. 'The clothes of a drunk that he is' shows Cesare's anger, which has been bubbled underneath for a very long time. It seems as if Jane is getting even closer to the Pope now, when they allow themselves to argue in front of her. However, Jane's departure may imply that she still hasn't got used to being accepted by her friends/humans? You probably do not think of it that way, but yeah...
I must say, I like Juan more now after his talk with Jane. He may be a drunk, but in the end, he can be quite smart in a way when he is sober? When Jane comments his arrogance as a shield, I think I can sympathise with him in a way. Maybe he has known that he is the lesser son after all. I like how every character, even some (initially) unpleasant one like Juan gets to have their spotlight.
Micheletto likes Cesare? At least this is what I think so. :) I wonder how Jane will 'use' Micheletto'. I think Micheletto was the one that says he knows Jane's secret... So now that Jane knows Micheletto's secret as well, he may not revel Jane's identity? :)
Sorry for reviewing this chapter so late, I have been really busy... One thing about this story though is that there are too many things going on. There is Lucrezier's feelings about her divorce and child, a 'vampire' Amadi, Dolle Rovere, Giulia becoming thinner, Jane and Julio... It may be nice to focus on an issue for a few chapters... It sometimes can confuse others, and then I will be like 'huh?' sometimes. I like this chapter though. :) especially the Juan and Jane bit.
When I compare Lucrezier and Giulia. Giulia now seems more like the innocent one to me. She is still complicated (she is a Borgia woman after all), but she hasn't ben through as much as lucrezier. She hasn't got a divorce (or got married for that matter), nor a child. lucrezier and Jane can understand each other on so many levels, but Giulia doesn't. She seems even more like a child than Lucrezier, which is quite interesting.
The meeting between the Pope and Cesare is very intense: I can definitely feel their frustration and annoyance with each other underneath. Even when you don't outright say their feelings. I guess Cesare does not like Juan also, he literally is the reason Cesare cannot do what he likes best. 'The clothes of a drunk that he is' shows Cesare's anger, which has been bubbled underneath for a very long time. It seems as if Jane is getting even closer to the Pope now, when they allow themselves to argue in front of her. However, Jane's departure may imply that she still hasn't got used to being accepted by her friends/humans? You probably do not think of it that way, but yeah...
I must say, I like Juan more now after his talk with Jane. He may be a drunk, but in the end, he can be quite smart in a way when he is sober? When Jane comments his arrogance as a shield, I think I can sympathise with him in a way. Maybe he has known that he is the lesser son after all. I like how every character, even some (initially) unpleasant one like Juan gets to have their spotlight.
Micheletto likes Cesare? At least this is what I think so. :) I wonder how Jane will 'use' Micheletto'. I think Micheletto was the one that says he knows Jane's secret... So now that Jane knows Micheletto's secret as well, he may not revel Jane's identity? :)
Sorry for reviewing this chapter so late, I have been really busy... One thing about this story though is that there are too many things going on. There is Lucrezier's feelings about her divorce and child, a 'vampire' Amadi, Dolle Rovere, Giulia becoming thinner, Jane and Julio... It may be nice to focus on an issue for a few chapters... It sometimes can confuse others, and then I will be like 'huh?' sometimes. I like this chapter though. :) especially the Juan and Jane bit.
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Sorry for the late review. It is just if I want to write a long and good review, I have to do it when I am free and ready, not just when I have 5 minutes before I have to shower etc. if you get what I mean. Lol
Anyway, Cesare's reactions towards Lucrezier giving birth shows how important she is. I think it is really nice for him to do that. He loves her so much. She is giving birth to a child that wasn't his, but he still worries and cares for her. He even wants to be with Lucrezier! And he voices that out loud in front of the pope/his father and other audience, which is a very brave thing for him to do. :)
The Gioffre and Sancha bit is adorable. Gioffre's defensiveness shows his protectiveness of his wife, but also his childish side. Hehe, is it just me, or does Gioffre sounds like a children? Sancha's language is just so much more formal in a way... She sounds like a mother, nurturing her son and teaching him...
I don't understand the interaction between Giulia and Jane... Why has she gained weight? I suppose you didn't just add that in for nothing. Also, why does he have to wait? She is possibly very young, so that's no way she can't have children... I am so confused... I wonder if you can tell me a bit more? _
The Julio and Jane bit is heart breaking... Julio is so sweet, he is angry, but he is still very gentle with Jane... He placed her hand on her lap instead of just... I don't know, pulled it away? I understand Jane's motivations now. She isn't just attracted to Machiavalli, she is very confused. She didn't have love in her human life, and in her immortal love, she has oly experienced love from her brother. What she had with Aro is probably more of a boss/worker relationship. Now, she knows Julio and discovers love, and all of this is foreign to her. It is sad when she confesses how she can never love Julio as much as he loves her. She probably takes a longer time to love somebody, especially when her love also comes with the burden of guilt and her own self-loathing... I can't blame Julio though, I have always envisioned him to be the 'happy optimistic sunshine kind of guy' and he hasn't had time to discover how... Destructive and bad a vampire can be. He does not have a sad past, and he has no reasons to be wary and sad, so he does not understand Jane.
I love Lucrezier in this chapter. She is probably one of my favourite characters in here. I am glad that her pain seemed to have been erased by her new child. Isn't it funny that she appears to be young again once she becomes a more matured woman, one that now have a baby? The interaction between her and Jane is really nice as well. I feel oddly emotional when I read that bit. It is as though they have both gone through so much, and at the end, they both understand each other better than others can. Of course, it is also how Lucrezier has felt this kind of pain before, which is the reason she understands Jane. She doesn't know what happen, or who Jane even is, but she gets her completely. There is not many words exchanged, but I feel that their bond has grown so much in this moment. This is a very lovely chapter, but it is probably my favourite moment. :)
Sorry for the late review. It is just if I want to write a long and good review, I have to do it when I am free and ready, not just when I have 5 minutes before I have to shower etc. if you get what I mean. Lol
Anyway, Cesare's reactions towards Lucrezier giving birth shows how important she is. I think it is really nice for him to do that. He loves her so much. She is giving birth to a child that wasn't his, but he still worries and cares for her. He even wants to be with Lucrezier! And he voices that out loud in front of the pope/his father and other audience, which is a very brave thing for him to do. :)
The Gioffre and Sancha bit is adorable. Gioffre's defensiveness shows his protectiveness of his wife, but also his childish side. Hehe, is it just me, or does Gioffre sounds like a children? Sancha's language is just so much more formal in a way... She sounds like a mother, nurturing her son and teaching him...
I don't understand the interaction between Giulia and Jane... Why has she gained weight? I suppose you didn't just add that in for nothing. Also, why does he have to wait? She is possibly very young, so that's no way she can't have children... I am so confused... I wonder if you can tell me a bit more? _
The Julio and Jane bit is heart breaking... Julio is so sweet, he is angry, but he is still very gentle with Jane... He placed her hand on her lap instead of just... I don't know, pulled it away? I understand Jane's motivations now. She isn't just attracted to Machiavalli, she is very confused. She didn't have love in her human life, and in her immortal love, she has oly experienced love from her brother. What she had with Aro is probably more of a boss/worker relationship. Now, she knows Julio and discovers love, and all of this is foreign to her. It is sad when she confesses how she can never love Julio as much as he loves her. She probably takes a longer time to love somebody, especially when her love also comes with the burden of guilt and her own self-loathing... I can't blame Julio though, I have always envisioned him to be the 'happy optimistic sunshine kind of guy' and he hasn't had time to discover how... Destructive and bad a vampire can be. He does not have a sad past, and he has no reasons to be wary and sad, so he does not understand Jane.
I love Lucrezier in this chapter. She is probably one of my favourite characters in here. I am glad that her pain seemed to have been erased by her new child. Isn't it funny that she appears to be young again once she becomes a more matured woman, one that now have a baby? The interaction between her and Jane is really nice as well. I feel oddly emotional when I read that bit. It is as though they have both gone through so much, and at the end, they both understand each other better than others can. Of course, it is also how Lucrezier has felt this kind of pain before, which is the reason she understands Jane. She doesn't know what happen, or who Jane even is, but she gets her completely. There is not many words exchanged, but I feel that their bond has grown so much in this moment. This is a very lovely chapter, but it is probably my favourite moment. :)